Coronovirus III

[BugI02]

The CDC reporting issue has some nuance to it.

Does anyone believe that it is accurate to the exact positive/death? No. That's unrealistic.

After some delay, does it eventually get to a reasonable level of accuracy for purposes of policymaking? Probably. Hopefully. Sure, why not.

If the CDC was artillery, raining shells on the virus while responsible to not hurt the economy with friendly fire, how long should we wait for them to attain 'a reasonable level of accuracy'

If they want to call the shots on policymaking, I think it is incumbent on them to have a very high level of accuracy and to fully explain themselves when they change policies that they previously supported

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Denmark cuts social distancing rules, eases restrictions as part of timeline to get back to normal

https://www.theblaze.com/news/denma...&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze

 

[nonobaddog]

If the CDC was artillery, raining shells on the virus while responsible to not hurt the economy with friendly fire, how long should we wait for them to attain 'a reasonable level of accuracy'

Do you think that might be an overly loaded description?

 

[BugI02]

Riffing on the use of 'accuracy' on a gun forum

 

[Route 45]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...weapons-north-carolina-sandwich-shop-n1204081

Bunch of ****ing larpers.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...weapons-north-carolina-sandwich-shop-n1204081

Bunch of ****ing larpers.

Yeah... I think this falls into the "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" category.

 

[jedi]

https://wamu.org/story/20/05/11/a-c...rowd-on-mothers-day-its-now-been-closed-down/

And what is WORSE the spanish news station showed video of this event and highlight a customer that was open carrying a sidearm at the event! Oh the horror!!!

- no one got shot
- people were enjoy life and freedom

But nnnnooooo the news says this is bbbbaaaadddd


PS.
The colorado health dept has closed the coffee shop down.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Putting this here because it’s related to the CV thing.

Watching the Trump show in the evenings when he interacts with the press is usually entertaining. I’m not sure what to make of this one though. It was a non-sensical question, I’ll say. I don’t think Trump intended it to come of as racist. I think he saw it as an opportunity to slam China for the pandemic but the fact he said it in response to a question brought by (I’m assuming — dangerous I know) by a woman of Asian descent is a rookie error.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/trump-storms-off-press-conference-ask-china-remark/

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Putting this here because it’s related to the CV thing.

Watching the Trump show in the evenings when he interacts with the press is usually entertaining. I’m not sure what to make of this one though. It was a non-sensical question, I’ll say. I don’t think Trump intended it to come of as racist. I think he saw it as an opportunity to slam China for the pandemic but the fact he said it in response to a question brought by (I’m assuming — dangerous I know) by a woman of Asian descent is a rookie error.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/trump-storms-off-press-conference-ask-china-remark/

Yeah, hard to construe that as racist. He just brushed off a little chihuahua nipping at his ankles I think.

ETA: Something something big dogs, stay on the porch.

 

[dusty88]

Putting this here because it’s related to the CV thing.

Watching the Trump show in the evenings when he interacts with the press is usually entertaining. I’m not sure what to make of this one though. It was a non-sensical question, I’ll say. I don’t think Trump intended it to come of as racist. I think he saw it as an opportunity to slam China for the pandemic but the fact he said it in response to a question brought by (I’m assuming — dangerous I know) by a woman of Asian descent is a rookie error.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/trump-storms-off-press-conference-ask-china-remark/

I don't know that he meant it to be racist, but irregardless it's disgusting for any head of state to dismiss a question like that. Then he avoids the next woman without even letting her ask her question.

Idiocracy couldn't make leadership look any worse than this guy does.

 

[hoosierdoc]

this is a county map showing deaths by thirds

red, green,yellow each make up one third of deaths

I repeat, national quarantine was insane

keyboard test utility

 

[churchmouse]

this is a county map showing deaths by thirds

red, green,yellow each make up one third of deaths

I repeat, national quarantine was insane

keyboard test utility

OK peoples. It should be glaringly obvious what this is about by now.

 

[jedi]

Where did the map/data come from?
I do believe you and want to send it to others but cant grab the inage.

 

[Ingomike]

this is a county map showing deaths by thirds

red, green,yellow each make up one third of deaths

I repeat, national quarantine was insane

keyboard test utility

We the people were duped by everyone...

They are now engaged in the cover up of how bad they failed by pushing the narrative of how bad things still are...

 

[jedi]

So it begs the question.
What was stolen?
What freedom did we lose?
What did .gov prove with this?

I have some opinions on this but would like to hear what others have to say.


As for the map. Why is it divided by 1/3 of the cases?
Not sure I fully understand that portion of the data?

 

[hoosierdoc]

So it begs the question.
What was stolen?
What freedom did we lose?
What did .gov prove with this?

I have some opinions on this but would like to hear what others have to say.


As for the map. Why is it divided by 1/3 of the cases?
Not sure I fully understand that portion of the data?

99% of the country represents 1/3 of the deaths.

zero chance NY would have shut down if the red spot was in north Dakota

 

[d.kaufman]

What was stolen?
See question 2
What freedoms did we lose?
Right to assembly, freedom to congregate at church, freedom to go to the beach, park, gun ranges, sit down and have a meal at a restaurant, freedom to buy guns, etc (may not pertain to every state, county, or city) but it did/has/is happening
What did .gov prove?
Well in my eyes, their incompetence. But I believe it was a trial run on what freedoms Americans are willing to give up in a time of manufactured crisis

Just my of course

 

[dusty88]

Why are we speaking of this in the past tense? This pandemic has a ways to go.

I agree the response should be different in different places, but there wasn't time for a 6 mo debate.

Now is a good time to change practices rather than keeping things closed.

I actually think we've learned a lot that helps:
- We understand that a lot of infected folks are asymptomatic (so much more focus on masks now)
- We understand that fever is not a necessary symptom and that relying on fever to determine if someone needs medical attention is not appropriate
- We understand that sometimes people with very low oxygenation feel fine (silent hypoxia) - but that can be detected with simple and cheap pulse oximeters
- We have a broader range of symptoms to look for than fever, cough, shortness of breath, chills, and muscle pain: new loss of taste or smell, vomiting or diarrhea, sore throat, COVID toe, heart issues
- We see workplaces with tight arrangements as higher risk, requiring more surveillance and earlier intervention - the same for nursing homes and prisons
- We see that health facility workers who have sustained exposure without a break seem to be more susceptible to severe cases (cytokine storm); some indication that having a 14-day work shift followed by a sustained off period (7-10 days) may be better
- We've learned that proving patients can significantly improve their oxygenation in many cases almost immediately
- We've learned that breathing issues may not be a type that benefits as much from simply pushing air in
- We continue to see lower death rates in areas where hospitals are not overwhelmed
- We see African-Americans, Hispanics & Native Americans having especially high mortality rates with COVID-19, at least suggesting that patients from these groups might benefit from earlier intervention and a closer look for symptoms; ditto for people who are obese or diabetic
- We see kids as being proportionately much less affected than adults
- We're gaining some (limited) clarity on medications that assist/harm in different presentations/stages of the disease
- We've got more (but still not enough) PPE for healthcare workers -- and that should help reduce the toll of death on these folks
- We've got more (but still not enough) test capacity and the tests return results fast enough to be a lot more useful
- We're in the very earliest stages of making antibody testing available, though we still don't know how persistent the antibody effects are or whether people who had asymptomatic cases develop a strong antibody reaction




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[nonobaddog]

This is indeed a great, instantaneous way to present the geographic effect of the chinese virus. Thanks for posting that!!

The image can be found here... https://i.postimg.cc/y8g574Rx/FB-IMG-1589246725149.jpg

this is a county map showing deaths by thirds

red, green,yellow each make up one third of deaths

I repeat, national quarantine was insane

keyboard test utility

 

[Ingomike]

Why are we speaking of this in the past tense? This pandemic has a ways to go.

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Stick a fork in it, it's over. Just being prolonged for political advantage. Never did warrant the attention it got...