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Colts 2023 A Time To Change
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ChristianPatriot
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ChristianPatriot
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I don’t want to be Debbie Downer but this is basically worst case scenario.
This year was always about finding out if Richardson was the guy or not and giving him those reps he desperately needed. Record didn’t really matter this year. Now we won’t “really” know if he’s the franchise guy moving forward. He won’t get all those valuable rookie snaps. Minshew will win enough games to have us as a fringe playoff team, which means we also won’t get a high draft pick.
Injuries suck. They just suck.
This year was always about finding out if Richardson was the guy or not and giving him those reps he desperately needed. Record didn’t really matter this year. Now we won’t “really” know if he’s the franchise guy moving forward. He won’t get all those valuable rookie snaps. Minshew will win enough games to have us as a fringe playoff team, which means we also won’t get a high draft pick.
Injuries suck. They just suck.
ChristianPatriot
Grandmaster
Grace 3. 4-6 weeks.
As of this moment: that is still unconfirmed.
The original diagnosis yesterday was a Grade 3 AC.
As of this morning: AR has apparently had his MRI, but the team is still waiting to get the results.
thunderchicken
Grandmaster
Yeah, that certainly doesn't sound good.
Wow!
www.nbcsports.com
Dolphins have five fastest speeds by ballcarriers so far this season
The Dolphins' speed was on full display against the Giants on Sunday.
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Having watched AR through his short college career this is no surprise to me. He has been a high injury risk since high school. I don't see this changing. How can paid NFL scouts not pick up on it is a mystery to me.
High School
Richardson, Eatside’s quarterback, injured his right arm/shoulder in the first half and did not return for the second half. After the game, Hall reported that Eastside coach Cedderick Daniels confirmed Richardson is out for the remainder of the season.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com
At Florida
Jamie Erdahl of CBS Sports provided more updates on Anthony Richardson’s hamstring injury just before the kickoff of Florida’s tangle against Alabama in the Swamp.
Richardson told the CBS crew that his first and worst hamstring strain came in spring football. The limp we saw last week after an 80-yard touchdown run was actually a reinjury of that right hamstring.
gatorswire.usatoday.com
Richardson, the team’s starter, injured his knee while dancing at the team hotel, head coach Dan Mullen told reporters on Monday. The Gators got blown out on Saturday by South Carolina, 40-17.
Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson is not expected to play in the Gators’ Dec. 23 bowl game against UCF. Richardson reportedly underwent surgery recently on his right knee. He’s dealing with a meniscus injury that originally occurred in high school.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com
With Colts
Game 1. Missed the final minute of Indy's season-opening loss to Jacksonville with a bruised knee
Game 2. Left game. concussion
Game 3. Out with concussion
Game 4. Injured his right shoulder after being tackled on a 4-yard designed run at the 4:26 mark of the second
quarter
High School
Richardson, Eatside’s quarterback, injured his right arm/shoulder in the first half and did not return for the second half. After the game, Hall reported that Eastside coach Cedderick Daniels confirmed Richardson is out for the remainder of the season.
Florida QB commit Anthony Richardson injured, senior season could be over
The 4-star dual-threat QB committed to the hometown Gators earlier this year.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com
At Florida
Jamie Erdahl of CBS Sports provided more updates on Anthony Richardson’s hamstring injury just before the kickoff of Florida’s tangle against Alabama in the Swamp.
Richardson told the CBS crew that his first and worst hamstring strain came in spring football. The limp we saw last week after an 80-yard touchdown run was actually a reinjury of that right hamstring.
Anthony Richardson won't play unless Emory Jones gets hurt
Mullen says that Richardson will be a pure backup this week.
gatorswire.usatoday.com
Richardson, the team’s starter, injured his knee while dancing at the team hotel, head coach Dan Mullen told reporters on Monday. The Gators got blown out on Saturday by South Carolina, 40-17.
Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson is not expected to play in the Gators’ Dec. 23 bowl game against UCF. Richardson reportedly underwent surgery recently on his right knee. He’s dealing with a meniscus injury that originally occurred in high school.
Anthony Richardson details knee injury keeping him out of bowl game
The Gator quarterback shed some light on his knee injury recently.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com
With Colts
Game 1. Missed the final minute of Indy's season-opening loss to Jacksonville with a bruised knee
Game 2. Left game. concussion
Game 3. Out with concussion
Game 4. Injured his right shoulder after being tackled on a 4-yard designed run at the 4:26 mark of the second
quarter
ChristianPatriot
Grandmaster
I had a whole post written up about quarterbacks and injury labels and all that. It’s just not worth it.
Believe what you want to believe. It’s all good. It’s just entertainment at the end of the day.
Believe what you want to believe. It’s all good. It’s just entertainment at the end of the day.
I would like to read your thoughts on this…I had a whole post written up about quarterbacks and injury labels and all that. It’s just not worth it.
Believe what you want to believe. It’s all good. It’s just entertainment at the end of the day.
QB's get injured, some more than others. That's a fact not a belief.I had a whole post written up about quarterbacks and injury labels and all that. It’s just not worth it.
Believe what you want to believe. It’s all good. It’s just entertainment at the end of the day.
manifest destiny
Master
The real tell will be how the Colts handle his roster spot. If he's IR'd with designation to return (what is it, 4 games? 6?) then his shoulder is likely thrashed. If he's not IR'd, maybe the team is hoping he's back in 3 weeks?? His throwing shoulder to boot. Ugh! There was a caller on local 93.5fm today that referenced Steve Emtman (sp?) and how this looks like it could play out similar.
ChristianPatriot
Grandmaster
Luckily we’ve seen qb’s come back from this exact injury with no long term effects. Get him healthy and go from there.
“The full details have now trickled in. Here they are, per a source with knowledge of the terms.”
1. Signing bonus: $10.248 million.
2. 2023 base salary: $784,556, fully guaranteed.
3. 2024 base salary: $7.804 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2024 per-game roster bonus: $510,000, fully guaranteed as of the third day after contract execution.
5. 2025 base salary: $11.98 million, $7.152 million of which is guaranteed for injury at signing. The $7.152 million becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2024 league year.
6. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
7. 2026 base salary: $11.98 million.
8. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
Taylor was due to make $3.347 million over the balance of 2023. The deal has a new-money value of $14 million per year. From signing, it’s worth $11.336 million per year, with total cash of $45.347 million.
The signing bonus will be paid in two chunks, with $2.562 million paid on October 20, 2023, and the remaining $7.686 million paid on March 29, 2024.
It makes him the No. 2 running back in pay, behind 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey. It remains to be seen whether this contract breathes new life into the running back market.
www.nbcsports.com
1. Signing bonus: $10.248 million.
2. 2023 base salary: $784,556, fully guaranteed.
3. 2024 base salary: $7.804 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2024 per-game roster bonus: $510,000, fully guaranteed as of the third day after contract execution.
5. 2025 base salary: $11.98 million, $7.152 million of which is guaranteed for injury at signing. The $7.152 million becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2024 league year.
6. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
7. 2026 base salary: $11.98 million.
8. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
Taylor was due to make $3.347 million over the balance of 2023. The deal has a new-money value of $14 million per year. From signing, it’s worth $11.336 million per year, with total cash of $45.347 million.
The signing bonus will be paid in two chunks, with $2.562 million paid on October 20, 2023, and the remaining $7.686 million paid on March 29, 2024.
It makes him the No. 2 running back in pay, behind 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey. It remains to be seen whether this contract breathes new life into the running back market.
Inside the Jonathan Taylor deal
The Colts did the unexpected on Saturday, giving running back Jonathan Taylor a long-term deal after weeks of dragging their feet.
www.nbcsports.com
Hopefully they start playing him more than just a handful of snaps. Although with Moss...“The full details have now trickled in. Here they are, per a source with knowledge of the terms.”
1. Signing bonus: $10.248 million.
2. 2023 base salary: $784,556, fully guaranteed.
3. 2024 base salary: $7.804 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2024 per-game roster bonus: $510,000, fully guaranteed as of the third day after contract execution.
5. 2025 base salary: $11.98 million, $7.152 million of which is guaranteed for injury at signing. The $7.152 million becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2024 league year.
6. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
7. 2026 base salary: $11.98 million.
8. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
Taylor was due to make $3.347 million over the balance of 2023. The deal has a new-money value of $14 million per year. From signing, it’s worth $11.336 million per year, with total cash of $45.347 million.
The signing bonus will be paid in two chunks, with $2.562 million paid on October 20, 2023, and the remaining $7.686 million paid on March 29, 2024.
It makes him the No. 2 running back in pay, behind 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey. It remains to be seen whether this contract breathes new life into the running back market.
Inside the Jonathan Taylor deal
The Colts did the unexpected on Saturday, giving running back Jonathan Taylor a long-term deal after weeks of dragging their feet.
I think JT needs to prove himself. He's got some competition for sure.An interesting point…
It was a smart manipulation of the rules by Peters, a desperation move that worked. Even if it also was a blatant violation.
And while it rarely happens that the last man with a clear shot at the ball carrier uses a horse-collar tackle to prevent him from scoring, it’s a wrinkle that the league should consider when tweaking rules in the offseason. If the technique, which has been prohibited for nearly two decades, is aimed at protecting players against lower-body injuries, an argument could be made in situations like this to grant the offense the touchdown.
The rulebook already contains language that allows a touchdown to be awarded, in the event of a “palpably unfair act.” Although the rulebook does not define the term, it contains one specific example as it relates to a scoring play. If a defender blocks a field goal attempt as it otherwise is passing through the uprights (a maneuver that was once legal), three points are to be awarded.
Beyond that, what is a palpably unfair act? Could it be argued that using a blatantly unsafe tackling technique to bring down a player who otherwise would score a touchdown should be regarded as “palpably unfair”?
“Palpably” is simply a melodramatic synonym for “noticeably or clearly.” What Peters did was noticeably and clearly a violation of the rules. Does that make it “unfair”?
It’s likely an issue the league has never had to consider. Perhaps it should.
And it’s not the same as interfering with a wide-open receiver who would otherwise catch a touchdown pass. Here, the defender used a maneuver that the powers-that-be want out of the game, because it is proven to cause injury.
So here’s the question. If a player uses a horse-collar tackle to bring down a ball-carrier who otherwise would score, is it a “palpably unfair act” that permits the touchdown to be given to the offense?
www.nbcsports.com
It was a smart manipulation of the rules by Peters, a desperation move that worked. Even if it also was a blatant violation.
And while it rarely happens that the last man with a clear shot at the ball carrier uses a horse-collar tackle to prevent him from scoring, it’s a wrinkle that the league should consider when tweaking rules in the offseason. If the technique, which has been prohibited for nearly two decades, is aimed at protecting players against lower-body injuries, an argument could be made in situations like this to grant the offense the touchdown.
The rulebook already contains language that allows a touchdown to be awarded, in the event of a “palpably unfair act.” Although the rulebook does not define the term, it contains one specific example as it relates to a scoring play. If a defender blocks a field goal attempt as it otherwise is passing through the uprights (a maneuver that was once legal), three points are to be awarded.
Beyond that, what is a palpably unfair act? Could it be argued that using a blatantly unsafe tackling technique to bring down a player who otherwise would score a touchdown should be regarded as “palpably unfair”?
“Palpably” is simply a melodramatic synonym for “noticeably or clearly.” What Peters did was noticeably and clearly a violation of the rules. Does that make it “unfair”?
It’s likely an issue the league has never had to consider. Perhaps it should.
And it’s not the same as interfering with a wide-open receiver who would otherwise catch a touchdown pass. Here, the defender used a maneuver that the powers-that-be want out of the game, because it is proven to cause injury.
So here’s the question. If a player uses a horse-collar tackle to bring down a ball-carrier who otherwise would score, is it a “palpably unfair act” that permits the touchdown to be given to the offense?
Horse-collar tackle by Marcus Peters saved touchdown, possibly changed outcome
Raiders cornerback Marcus Peters might have saved Monday night's win with an illegal tackle.
www.nbcsports.com
NFL Referees Use Replay To Rescind Penalty Against Packers On Monday Night Football, Which No One Knew They Could Do
NFL referees called a penalty against the Green Bay Packers on Monday Night Football but overturned the call without any explanation.
www.outkick.com
Not that I'm any kind of contract/cap prognosticator or anything - because I certainly am not - but I always thought, and think I even said, that something in the $10-12MM/yr range was where I thought he would land.“The full details have now trickled in. Here they are, per a source with knowledge of the terms.”
1. Signing bonus: $10.248 million.
2. 2023 base salary: $784,556, fully guaranteed.
3. 2024 base salary: $7.804 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2024 per-game roster bonus: $510,000, fully guaranteed as of the third day after contract execution.
5. 2025 base salary: $11.98 million, $7.152 million of which is guaranteed for injury at signing. The $7.152 million becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2024 league year.
6. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
7. 2026 base salary: $11.98 million.
8. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $1.02 million total.
Taylor was due to make $3.347 million over the balance of 2023. The deal has a new-money value of $14 million per year. From signing, it’s worth $11.336 million per year, with total cash of $45.347 million.
The signing bonus will be paid in two chunks, with $2.562 million paid on October 20, 2023, and the remaining $7.686 million paid on March 29, 2024.
It makes him the No. 2 running back in pay, behind 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey. It remains to be seen whether this contract breathes new life into the running back market.
Inside the Jonathan Taylor deal
The Colts did the unexpected on Saturday, giving running back Jonathan Taylor a long-term deal after weeks of dragging their feet.
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