CNN - Gun Control

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More deceitful, dishonest, hypocritical leftist apologetics from finity. 6 months ago you were screaming that the sky WAS falling because of George Bush, now the tone here is too harsh for you. Yet, not a word of criticism can be worked up from you of an administration that is filled to the brim with dedicated gun-banners. You are so immersed in your leftist nuttery that you can't see it. Everyone to the right of Barney Frank is an extremist or "unstable." It's clear you defend and stand with the anti-gunners, finity. You're the dishonest agent here.

Six months ago it was Bush & the administration. We had 8 years of evidence to support the claim. Obviously I'm not the only one to think so or McCain & the Republicans wouldn't have been defeated so easily. Maybe in 4 years we'll have the same evidence against Obama.

I don't deny that the Obama administration is anti-gun. Nowhere have I made that claim. I didn't vote for him for exactly that reason.

I'd have to say that most here are right of Frank, probably even me. Show me anywhere that I have labeled anyone here an 'extremist'.

All I wanted was for Bush to be held accountble for the stuff he did. If Obama doesn't perform any better go ahead & crucify him. Really, go ahead. Lets not be ridiculous. He hasn't been in office long enough to have any proof of any misconduct (except maybe the bailout that was started by you know who). If you've got proof of any let's see it. Pretty much everything I've read is people saying that he's going to do such & such. If he does it, crucify him.

Don't hold him to a higher standard than you did your own side. Thats the problem I have with the stuff that gets posted here.

Evidence. Get the evidence. You should know the meaning & importance of that concept.

 

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Wow, you really are in denial too.

You need to open your mind a little to the tone & wording of the majority of the posts in the 'politics' forum. You honestly can't see the constant 'the sky is falling' hand-wringing going on?

I'm not saying that some of that, to an extent, is not justified (ever vigilant & all...). A lot of it just goes way over the top into the tin-foil hat area (3 layers - for your protection ).

And people here call me unstable...geesh. If you guys are calling me that then I think I need to take it as a compliment. Thanks!

I never said you were unstable, i am simply pointing out the simple fact that the fear mongering is being done by the radical left with this barrage of media headlines. The response by the right is only natural, and in many ways justified by cnn and others running opinion pieces like the one that started this thread. It is simply instilling fear into the general public that guns are inherently evil, and not the criminal committing the crime.

For the radical left to simply pawn the fear mongering off on those who will be affected by such a ban if it is passed, it would be the equivalent of saying that the jews in germany had no right to be scared when Hitler came to power and started passing his agenda in to law.

 

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I never said you were unstable, i am simply pointing out the simple fact that the fear mongering is being done by the radical left with this barrage of media headlines. The response by the right is only natural, and in many ways justified by cnn and others running opinion pieces like the one that started this thread. It is simply instilling fear into the general public that guns are inherently evil, and not the criminal committing the crime.

For the radical left to simply pawn the fear mongering off on those who will be affected by such a ban if it is passed, it would be the equivalent of saying that the jews in germany had no right to be scared when Hitler came to power and started passing his agenda in to law.

I realize that you aren't the one who used unstable. That was meant as a general 'you guys' not you specifically. Sorry for the confusion.

I agree completely about the anti-gun crowd doing their own fear mongering where guns are concerned. That doesn't mean that the right isn't doing their fair share as well. It's coming fom both sides.

The anti-gun crowd does want to take peoples guns. And they do use incidents to further their agenda. I've never denied that. The pro-gun crowd uses those incidents to further their own agenda, too. To state otherwise is not being honest & to rant on about the anti-gunners doing it is hypocrisy.

The right however doesn't just stop with the gun issue. They continue on with the liberals/left/Democrats are - anti-gun, socialist, circumventing the Constitution, taking away every right you've got, destroying America & the very fabric of society, liars, cheats, theives, lazy, ignorant & the devil. (this is the point where you'll quote me & say that we finally agree ). Thats the fear mongering I'm referring to. Those are the kinds of things that get the right-wing extremists riled up. Those are the things that throw fuel on the fire of extremist groups that lean toard violence. Those are the things that increase recruiting to those right wing extremist groups with people who have never joined otherwise but now they feel pushed into a corner. Those are the kind of things that the DHS report was referring to.

The far right has their own issues that would/could have/already has had some of the same effects. There are anti-gun people on the right as well. Its not correct to label all liberals/Democrats as anti-gun. I'm one example of a pro-gun liberal. My wife is another. There are millions more. Not all liberals are far-left fanatics. Just like not all conservatives are far-right extremists. The great majority of people are centrists who either lean one way or the other.