Carrying while at a Boy Scout function

[sbatten]

I know you can't carry if you are an adult chaperon at an school function event off school property or on school property. What about something like the Cub/Boy Scouts? My son is in the Cub Scouts and we go to places with the organization. They are talking about going on a hike. Can I carry as long as I'm not on a school property or post office, court house, yada yada yada.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

There's no LAW against it, given what you've said above.

Unfortunately the BSA has turned itself over to a bunch of nancy boy lawyers... so I don't bother asking. I just CC and roll (and obviously concealed means concealed). I wish I could give you a definitive answer one way or the other, but the above is MY answer.

 

[youngda9]

Yes.

Motto: Always prepared.

 

[sbatten]

I didn't think it would be a problem either, but I thought I would ask. On a side not they are trying to organize a hike through the Sierra Club. Made me want to PUKE!

Thanks!

 

[kludge]

"Except for law enforcement officers required to carry firearms within their jurisdiction, firearms shall not be brought on camping, hiking, backpacking, or other Scouting activities except those specifically planned for target shooting under the supervision of a currently certified BSA or National Rifle Association firearms instructor."

source: Guns and Firearms

 

[eldirector]

So.... Be (only mostly) prepared. That's too bad.

 

[Jtgarner]

Legally, I believe so. I am an Assistant Scout Master for troop 103 in Elkhart IN and I would not have a problem with it if a parent wanted to carry on a hike (as long as they were licensed). Now for the record, I am not 100% sure, and my scout troop is sponsored and meets at a church, not a school.

 

[Jtgarner]

"Except for law enforcement officers required to carry firearms within their jurisdiction, firearms shall not be brought on camping, hiking, backpacking, or other Scouting activities except those specifically planned for target shooting under the supervision of a currently certified BSA or National Rifle Association firearms instructor."

What are they going to do? Kick your kid out? If they do, look for another troop, most Scout Masters I know would not care. That being said, I agree with the idea of just strapping it on and keeping it concealed with no one knowing.

 

[sadclownwp]

Boy Scouts would not take the "mistake" of a parent out on a scout. But carrying at any Boy Scout Camp is not allowed. One of the reasons I am no longer an Assistant Scoutmaster.

 

[sbatten]

I would not carry at a camp, but I would on a hike.

 

[Hemingway]

The liberals are killing the BSA. And I'm a Den Leader.

Read BP's stuff from the early days and look at it now. It's really disgusting to me but I put up with it, trying to make a small change.

 

[Pocketman]

BSA has been given a lot a grief in recent years for not allowing atheists in the organization. They've also had some unfortunate abuse cases. Therefore, they have strict policies in place to protect children. When I was a scoutmaster I was a LEO and didn't really give this subject any thought. My opinion (and that's all it is) would be to refrain from carrying on BSA property or council events. A troop function in a venue that would normally allow weapons is another story. I think too, as a parent, you'd have more latitude than a Scout leader.

 

[bigus_D]

The BSA is anti-gun. Per their rules, you cannot carry at their functions.

It is legal, assuming you aren't entering school property or any other number of place/situations defined by law... but it IS against their rules.

It is my opinion I should be able to carry EVERYWHERE I go. No exceptions. (so long as it is legal) this is what I do. I suggest you do the same.

 

[philo]

Yes.

Motto: Always prepared.

Actually that's the Coast Guard. The Boy Scout motto is "be prepared"

 

[philo]

BSA has been given a lot a grief in recent years for not allowing atheists in the organization. They've also had some unfortunate abuse cases. Therefore, they have strict policies in place to protect children. When I was a scoutmaster I was a LEO and didn't really give this subject any thought. My opinion (and that's all it is) would be to refrain from carrying on BSA property or council events. A troop function in a venue that would normally allow weapons is another story. I think too, as a parent, you'd have more latitude than a Scout leader.

When I was a scout (many many moons ago) our assistant scoutmaster was a cop. One night he brought about 75 guns to our meeting and let the scouts paw through them to "get it out of our systems". Really helped to take the mystique away. Then we had an evening of gun safety training. It was great, but it would never hapen these days.

Did I mention it was in a school basement in Chicago.

 

[Buckaroo]

When I was a scout (many many moons ago) our assistant scoutmaster was a cop. One night he brought about 75 guns to our meeting and let the scouts paw through them to "get it out of our systems". Really helped to take the mystique away. Then we had an evening of gun safety training. It was great, but it would never hapen these days.

Did I mention it was in a school basement in Chicago.

How many deaths and injuries occurred that evening? Any psychopaths born? What about kids being so scared as to never leave their home again?

In Chicago really? Amazing!

Buckaroo

 

[VERT]

I don't carry to cub scout meetings because there is a school on the property where we meet. As far as when we meet away from that property... Unfortunately my feeling is that the BSA is more concerned about liability then the safety of the boys. The cub scouts don't even give belt loops for football or martial arts because they are too violent.

 

[pftraining_in]

The BSA is anti-gun. Per their rules, you cannot carry at their functions.

If the BSA is anti-gun, why do they promote the Shooting Sports through the Venturing Program( who shoot pistol, rifle, shotguns and muzzleloaders), require their firearms instructors to be NRA certified and offer shotgun, rifle and muzzleloading merit badges?

BSA has been given a lot a grief in recent years for not allowing atheists in the organization.

Are they not a private organization and allowed to set their own rules?

 

[ATM]

If the BSA is anti-gun, why do they promote the Shooting Sports...

In much the same way that Fudds are often considered anti:

They're more than willing to throw large components of the RKBA under the bus as long as their "preferred" arms, sports or methods are left intact.

 

[skseifert]

Guns are not allowed. Too many lawyers have tainted the scouts. Still a good organization. They have successfully stuck to their religious principles so far (which is of many reasons I ban united way from any of my funds)