carry 1911 chambered, cocked, safety off?

[rich8483]

another thread got me curious about this. do any of you guys that have 1911s carry with a round chambered, hammer back but with the safety off?

wouldn't that pretty much be what an XD is? or is there more to the design of and XD than "an fug ugly 1911 with out a thumb safety"

 

[Integraholic]

Why would anyone do that?

 

[j. villarreal]

What he said ^.

Jason

 

[rich8483]

for those that claim a carry gun should not have a manual safety
"the only safety i need is the one between my ears"

what would be the difference between leaving the safety off and carrying an XD?

 

[youngda9]

Cuz an XD takes a long and much heavier trigger pull to set it off.

 

[cbseniour]

HOw long does it take to drop the safety on a 1911, I'll sacrifice that amount of time.

 

[Integraholic]

One has a hammer and firing pin, the other is striker fired.

 

[Armed-N-Ready]

Condition 0 is a no no for carry.

If a firearm has a safety use it. Condition 1 is the way it was meant to be carried.

 

[rich8483]

Cuz an XD takes a long and much heavier trigger pull to set it off.

other than the trolling part, i appreciate this answer much more than the "why would anyone do that" response.

is the XD really that much heavier/longer? i thought the whole point was it was a single action trigger. i have never shot one.

 

[sharkey]

IIRC, Browning's original design called for a grip safety only, and the Army insisted on the thumb safety too. In essence: Condition Zero.

Personally, I carry Condition One: It's what I am comfortable with and practiced with.

 

[Coltguy]

I quit agree, not sure why any would ever carry a 1911, that way!

 

[Coltguy]

After you shoot yourself in the foot, don't come running to me!

 

[rich8483]

ok, not sure if i came off that way as a smartass. wasnt trying too. accept for maybe now in this post. i was trying to see legitimately why people will say on one hand that glocks are okay b/c a careful man needs no manual safety but FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD if you have a 1911, carry it with the safety on.

are glocks and 1911s never owned by the same person?

i will also say, i carry a 1911, and yes, with the safety on.

 

[JetGirl]

IIRC, Browning's original design called for a grip safety only, and the Army insisted on the thumb safety too. In essence: Condition Zero.

True. It was a 1910 (predecessor to the 1911). I've never had my hands on one, but would like to...just to say I did!
Other than that, I'd have to say I wouldn't carry with the safety off...

 

[rich8483]

i will add that the only way i would come close to carrying mine with the safety off is if the grip safety was had a much stronger spring than it currently has. would also need to be a custom style to be gripped more effectively then to overcome the spring.

 

[cbseniour]

ok, not sure if i came off that way as a smartass. wasnt trying too. accept for maybe now in this post. i was trying to see legitimately why people will say on one hand that glocks are okay b/c a careful man needs no manual safety but FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD if you have a 1911, carry it with the safety on.

are glocks and 1911s never owned by the same person?

i will also say, i carry a 1911, and yes, with the safety on.

Don't worry about sounding like a smart ass on this forum, Ive learned that nearly everyone here qualifies to some degree.

I was in the army for several years and Viet Nam for one during which time we were trained to carry the 1911 wihtout a round in the chamber. It took a lot of effort and thought for me to learn to carry cocked and locked
I also own and sometimes carry an XDM and while I agree that your best safety is between your ears I am still more comfortable with the 1911 cocked and locked

The other important point someone already mentioned is that once a 1911 is cocked it takes very little trigger pressure to launch a round. on the XDM you feel the passive trigger safety come back then the trigger comes back to a stop before you actually fire a round. At least that is how mine seems to work. I've read several guys here complaining about the extremely long pull on the XDM

 

[gunman41mag]

another thread got me curious about this. do any of you guys that have 1911s carry with a round chambered, hammer back but with the safety off?

wouldn't that pretty much be what an XD is? or is there more to the design of and XD than "an fug ugly 1911 with out a thumb safety"

When I grab my 1911, my thumb is already pushing down the safety, I always have my 1911 COCK-N-LOCK

 

[Colt556]

Even though I always carry my 1911s Cocked n Locked I understand what the OP is getting at. If the grip safety is functioning properly and you keep your booger hook off of the bang switch it seems as if it would be plausible to carry that way. JMB designed the pistol to be carried that way originally IIRC. I would never do it but I understand the reasoning. The 1911 SA trigger pull is just so short and light compared to the striker fired plastic wonder pistols of today I think you'd be asking for trouble. IMHO YMMV

 

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