Are red dots reliable?

[DadSmith]

Well I'd be willing to bet that no one here is talking about anything like the first three, and I suppose the Romeo Zero is a micro but even that is an extreme. The g**** you added with the RMR is the only normal one that normal people are normally talking about.

Yet there is a difference between micro red dots and red dot sight

 

[DadSmith]

The 1980's called and they want their race guns back.

Probably way before your time.
They are still being used believe that or not.

 

[ditcherman]

Probably way before your time.
They are still being used believe that or not.

Before my time of being a gun guy, maybe.

 

[DadSmith]

Before my time of being a gun guy, maybe.

You saying you're old.

 

[ditcherman]

You saying you're old.
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No but I like cake.

 

[ECS686]

What if any credible sources did the counter guy have? Did he take a reputable class (Handguns Combatives, Gunsite, Range Master or MSP?) or did he just regurgitate counter talk? Sounds like the latter to me as any brand of RDS can have a zero shift.

Here’s a couple articles shared from Dave Spaulding Handgun Combatives page

Going Red Dot, Or Not?

If you’re like me, you’ve resisted any temptation to relegate the tried-and-true iron sights on your defensive handgun to “back-up” status by converting

gunsmagazine.com

Red Dot Considerations

With so many red dot sights (RDS) available these days, maybe a quick overview of what matters might be useful. “What matters” is what matters for your use, not what some guy on the int…

pistol-training.com

 

[Bosshoss]

ETA how do those even eject?

Ejection occurs when the slide is back and ejection port is behind the scope mount.

 

[ditcherman]

Ejection occurs when the slide is back and ejection port is behind the scope mount.

Well, duh, I guess that was a dumb question on my part. Just wasn’t seeing it.

 

[DadSmith]

Well, duh, I guess that was a dumb question on my part. Just wasn’t seeing it.

Don't worry we all have our moments.
My boys call it senior moments

 

[thompal]

The 1980's called and they want their race guns back.

ETA how do those even eject?

Does anyone ever have trouble with the added mass of a red dot on a slide causing reliability problems?

 

[Max Volume]

Those are most likely used exclusively for bullseye shooting. No, I have never done it formally.



I am more accurate with an iron sighted 41. Maybe it's more about the comfort of the pistol than the type of sights?
I dunno.

 

[ditcherman]

Does anyone ever have trouble with the added mass of a red dot on a slide causing reliability problems?

There was talk of heavier dots causing cycling problems on FN 5.7’s that I read about some time ago. That’s a blowback gun that could be a pretty sensitive system I think.
I had an RMR on a 5.7 for a while and had no problems, but didn’t shoot it a lot before the mounting system failed.

There’s a lot more forgiveness in the system of an average gun.

 

[DocIndy]

No problems with anything other than a Trijicon. That was several years ago before the V2 RMR came out but customer service sucked to the point that I'll never own another one of their products. ( Yeah, I hold a grudge) Started with a vortex venom, no issues with it but it's been relegated to a TX22 competition.. Holosun 507s on everything else and no problems with any of them.. As another said I trust my life with them and I have thousands of rounds through pistols, Glock & PSA Daggers with Holosuns riding the slides without issue.

The RMR has never moved POI after a lot of rounds.

And this Vortex Razor has held up on this 629. It gets plenty of full house Magnum loads and no issues.

 

[crookcountygo]

I've seen some pretty big red dots on pistols. Not AR red dots but big round red dot sights.

Point is red dot or micro red dot. There is a difference.

I don't know what you'd call it. But let's go with what a reasonable person would put on his or her compact carry pistol.

 

[Skip]

I don't know what you'd call it. But let's go with what a reasonable person would put on his or her compact carry pistol.

MRDS=Micro Red Dot Sight
RDS=Red Dot Sight
The ones mounted on non slide mounts are most likely not MRDS.
The ones mounted on the slide are mostly MRDS.
The ones for the micro pistols are even smaller than a MRDS.
That being said, you can get a slide cut for the smallest of red dots and that provides for a really low mount and co-witness with standard height sights.
If your pistol won’t cycle with a MRDS on the slide, try to find lighter recoil springs, one pound at a time. Too light of a spring can beat up your gun.

 

[Skip]

Don't worry we all have our moments.
My boys call it senior moments

Too many, too often! Lol

 

[NHT3]

Deltapoint micro, Holosun SCS, Holosun 507C.. General sizes you will see for pistols.

 

[bullet]

My Vortex has held zero just fine on my 50bmg. But it wasn't cheap and I've not shot it much.

 

[Skip]

Deltapoint micro, Holosun SCS, Holosun 507C.. General sizes you will see for pistols.
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Here is an evaluation of the DP Micro if interested.

 

[Born2vette]

I don't know what you'd call it. But let's go with what a reasonable person would put on his or her compact carry pistol.

I like to think I am a reasonable person. Two of my EDCs: CZ 2075 Rami B & Sig P365X with P365 Wilson Combat grip module. Both cycle well, are accurate and hold POA so far.

Edit: the Rami has factory sights which sight fine through the RDS and on the Sig can sight via a notch on the back of the sight. Both methods are as accurate as iron sights if I have RDS failure.