Tough market...

wtburnette · Feb 29, 2024

There are a lot of :poop:

companies out there and a lot of :poop:

managers. I will definitely say and stand by that. As a point of encouragement, I'll say that not everything is horrid. I work for a manager now who only cares about the work done, instead of hours worked. My schedule is flexible, I work remote and get along great with my manager and team. I make ~25% less than I should, but would rather be in this role than to make that extra money. Good positions are out there, pray that you're able to snag one!

miguel · Feb 29, 2024

I hear this a lot. TONS of good, smart, hard working people that can't get work.

Too many H1-Bs if you ask me.

Best of luck finding somewhere to land. I agree with what was said above...reach out to people you know, be it former co-workers, people at church, the gun club, neighbor, etc. It does suck to say, "I don't have a job" to people you may not be close with, but that person may say, "I know a guy who..."

armalitesheepdog · Feb 29, 2024

Keep your spirits up. I worked 19 years for a family owned company and they sold out to a corporation that swallows up smaller company's. I planed to retire from there and my coworkers were like family. I was gonna ride off into the sunset from there with my friends waving bye. Then one day a manager they brought in who never spoke to me walks up and said...hey. ya got a minute? I knew something bad was about to happen. And it did. Trimming staff he called it. Even though they were keeping younger lesser experienced people. It was all about payroll and I made too much. Not to proud to say I cried like a baby on the way home. I didn't even have a clue how to tell my wife. The point is Now I have a job I like more and make more money than I ever did. And you will too. The right thing will come along. I worked 2 other places in between and then the perfect fit came along. I am appreciated paid well and am sa happy as ever. Dont give up and don't get down I was there and I can tell you it will be alright.

Sorry for the essay

KG1 · Feb 29, 2024

Moral of the story. Wherever a manager comes up to you and says, "hey ya got a minute" Just say "no"

I'm only kidding here with a few posts to provide a bit of levity. I do realize that there are some serious employment situations going on here that severely affects many livelihoods, and I am sympathetic to those that are affected, I wish you well in finding something to remedy your current plight.

BigRed · Feb 29, 2024

fullmetaljesus said:
Been all over LinkedIn. Applied for everything in my line as well as some below and above.

Do you wear pants?

jamil · Feb 29, 2024

fullmetaljesus said:
So...... November-ish in 2022.

The company I worked for had a mass lay off. I was one of them.... The day I got notice another team reached out to me and said.....instead of getting laid off join our team. Fix our Linux servers and we will train you in Hadoop. So I joined instead of catching the lay off.

6 months later no useful training and the were mad I didn't fix some environments......they blamed me and laid me off and informed me I had 6 weeks and the ln out the door....

Three weeks after leaving there I got a new job. Took a month worth of interviews and waiting but I got it. Damn near my dream job...it was great. I messed with the tram well I was well liked it was great! Then with out warning I have call with my boss, his boss, and the CEO. Company not doing well, lost a contract, blah blah today's your last day.
They laid off 1/3 of the company that day. I was there...2 months. I left there the Friday before Thanksgiving. I chose not to look for a job in December and just took some time off to spend time with friends and family and decompress from the right year.

Been applying for jobs since Jan 1st.
I have had zero interviews. A few phone screens that go nowhere.

I have 18 years experience and 10 in my current tract. I'm getting nothing out there.

Anyone else having a touch time? Anyone looking for a Linux admin?

... Whining over

Thanks for reading

Do you proof read your resume? :):

Nah, just kidding. Sorry to hear about your ordeal. I’ve spent extended time unemployed when my job went to Mexico. I think now is a tough time for finding work. Anything IT related has been hit pretty hard. Lots of tech layoffs. Best you can do is keep trying. One thing I did was customize my resume to specific company’s needs. Research the companies and make sure the skills they want are prominent on your resume. Best of luck to you. I hope you find something soon.

jamil · Feb 29, 2024

DoggyDaddy said:
Maybe check here. Yes it's .gov, but I feel pretty secure in my job.

USAJOBS - The Federal Government's official employment site

Search and apply for federal jobs. Learn about unique hiring paths for veterans, students and graduates, individuals with a disability, and more.

www.usajobs.gov

I suspected something swampy about you. :):

armalitesheepdog · Feb 29, 2024

KG1 said:
Moral of the story. Wherever a manager comes up to you and says, "hey ya got a minute" Just say "no"

I'm only kidding here with a few posts to provide a bit of levity. I do realize that there are some serious employment situations going on here that severely affects many livelihoods, and I am sympathetic to those that are affected, I wish you well in finding something to remedy your current plight.

Hey, Ya got a minute never ends well.
Especially if its followed by go ahead and close the door. Have a seat.

jkaetz · Feb 29, 2024

Check out the larger higher ed institutions. They don't usually pay what the private sector does, but they also rarely lay people off. They are VERY slow though.

yeahbaby · Feb 29, 2024

jkaetz said:
Check out the larger higher ed institutions. They don't usually pay what the private sector does, but they also rarely lay people off. They are VERY slow though.

I agree with your recommendation on higher ed institutions. I retired from IT management at a college. The pay is not comparable to private sector. And layoffs rarely happen. Although the workplace intensity is much more stressful in private sector. That doesn't mean we weren't busy. Beginning, and during the school year we humped it. The summers were primarily time to get projects done for the upcoming school year. And they had some good benefits. If I chose, I could of gotten my masters degree literally for free. I didn't want to work that hard, ha!

BigRed · Feb 29, 2024

My Uncle Bill got canned.

He worked in a pickle factory for several years.

A few weeks ago, he told my Aunt Mary that he had a powerful urge to stick his "member" into the pickle slicer.

Last week, Bill came home early and was very pale. Mary asked, "What's wrong, Bill?"

"Do you remember how I told you about my tremendous urge to put my "member" into the pickle slicer?"

His wife gasps, "My God, Bill, what happened?"

"I got fired."

"No, Bill I mean, what happened with the pickle slicer?"

"Oh, um, she got fired too!

Gingerbeardman · Feb 29, 2024

A friend of mine once told me to apply to jobs I was only 30 percent qualified for and if I got one to just study up and learn the rest. She said once she adopted that approach she got a lot more contact. In fact I think it worked. I didn't try it myself and I don't know if it's a good strategy, just anecdotal evidence.

MCgrease08 · Feb 29, 2024

There are really only two ways to get noticed when applying for a job and they both take a lot of work.

1. You have to know someone on the inside that can take your resume and an introduction to the hiring manager or HR person to get your resume at the top of the stack.

Or,

2. Stuff your resume so full of keywords that you cause the applicant tracking software system to put your resume among the top 3-5 resumes that match the job description.

A majority of large companies these days use this software and if you don't beat the algorithm a human never even sees your resume.

That doesn't mean you just put a bunch of keywords on paper. You have to write a custom resume for every single job you apply for using terms and phrases from the job description. And it still has to be natural to read, so having good writing skills is important. There are even websites that you can pay a subscription to use and then upload your resume and it compares it to the job description and gives you a percentage of keywords matches. It measures against most common Applicant Tracking Systems and will give you tips on how to optimize it until you hit the 80% mark.

https://www.jobscan.co/

It sounds super simple, but it's harder than you think to make it look like your resume wasn't written by a robot. Because getting past the software is just step one. A real person will then look at it and decide whether they want to call you.

I used this method the last time I got laid off and it still took me almost 8 months to find a new job. But I had lots of interviews before I found the right fit, and I absolutely love my job and the company.

All that said, knowing someone on the inside it still a much better option.

Ken Coleman is someone I consider the nation's best career coach right now, and he talks about and teaches how to use The Proximity Principal.

Check out https://www.ramseysolutions.com/ken-coleman

sea.fellow89 · Feb 29, 2024

Time to learn windows server and azure 365. Support around 3k endpoints almost none of our clients use Linux anymore

WebSnyper · Mar 1, 2024

sea.fellow89 said:
Time to learn windows server and azure 365. Support around 3k endpoints almost none of our clients use Linux anymore

Funny thing is, Linux is the biggest server workload in Azure. https://build5nines.com/linux-is-most-used-os-in-microsoft-azure-over-50-percent-fo-vm-cores/

Article is a few years old but still true today.

Definitely agree that understanding and being proficient with the major cloud providers (AWS & Azure) would be very helpful in today's market.

And just a point of clarification, it's Microsoft 365 (previously called Office 365) which is the productivity suite (along with some security offerings) that is a software as a service offering (SaaS), while the cloud compute side for Microsoft is called Azure.

It's not Azure 365.

Route 45 · Mar 1, 2024

armalitesheepdog said:
Hey, Ya got a minute never ends well.
Especially if its followed by go ahead and close the door. Have a seat.

HoughMade · Mar 1, 2024

Sorry hear about the job problems. I'm not an IT guy, but me son is. I kinda glaze over when he describes what he does...but I'm just glad someone knows this stuff.

Best of luck to you all. I've had my share of career issues, different from this, but stressful. Hang in there.

fullmetaljesus · Mar 25, 2024

Update!

Got a call this morning, a company I interviewed with will be sending me an offer letter today or tomorrow!

Great opportunity at the salary I requested.

Thanks for all your thoughts and kind words!

Basher · Mar 25, 2024

Glad to hear something finally worked out!

I had to go through the process of hiring a new employee back in late Jan/early Feb. It was my first time doing so, and it was an eye opener, let me tell ya!

I got quite a few applications for the open position, but I’d wager half of them were unfit for the job to begin with based on experience and qualifications. Of the remaining half, probably half of them were disqualified because their resume was horrible (single sentences of about six to ten words max explaining each job they’d had, often with an average of a new job per year), and a few that I called out of near desperation had personalities to match said resumes lol.

I finally got down to two applicants that were a good match. One was probably a solid kid, but he had an internship all summer in NY and was only looking for part-time work. The position stated full-time. I interviewed him just to see if those plans were all solid, which they were. That left me with one applicant, who I’ve since hired and she’s doing a great job.

It IS a tough market out there. Lots of good advice in here, but for anyone else still looking, realize that even if you didn’t get the job, you were still probably WELL above half the population who applied. Sometimes it’s a tiny little thing that causes you to miss out, so don’t give up hope!

armalitesheepdog · Mar 25, 2024

Tough market...

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