Wayne LaPierre Resigns

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    Ingomike

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    You know, while many of us consider the red lobster to be pretty fancy/expensive, I learned watching TV that rich people joke about the place (Maury).
    If they don’t get this, they cannot fathom the situation on the ground in the swamp and what it takes to keep the turds in DC from usurping our god given rights. I do not condone it but understand it and recognize it is a needed element of protecting our rights…
     

    JAL

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    As an aside here . . . Twitter (now "X", a name that I still refuse to use) is awash with "Tweets" from certain organizations like Giffords being "Retweeted" with remarks, celebrating how the court case verdict has killed the NRA, driving a wooden stake into its evil heart. Orgs like Giffords and David Hogg's "March for our Lives" are using it for $$$$$ raising with lies by omission, failing to mention the verdict and judgement are giving money to the NRA from two of its former officers. Other than being leveraged for anti-2A fund-raising, it's been amusing to watch the moronic ignorance in the Twitter Cesspool.
     

    2tonic

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    I don't know fact or fiction about WLP's spending/abuse/corruption.
    I know that he has always rubbed me the wrong way (that's on me).
    I know I started doubting the mission/judgement/efficacy of the NRA when I was a member re-upping my card.
    First is was the unnecessary swag....sign up, get a hat/tote/range bag/ knife/tchotchke, etc. I get the marketing idea of exposure thru these items, but who see's them? Other guys at the range, who already know about the NRA. Not the "un-informed public".
    What....you're gonna wear your NRA hat, or carry your NRA duffle bag onto a Delta flight?
    No red flags there, I'm sure. Hope you like cavity searches.
    And who would trust the cheap crap not to rip, and spill all your stuff on the airport floor?
    Keep the merch, spend my dues on lobbying.
    Or offer quality products, and let me buy them, at a slight discount for renewing my membership.
    But they wouldn't allow the option.

    Then the mailers. I don't care how good a bulk rate postal deal they had, they spent three times the amount of my yearly dues trying to get me to renew. I even tried renewing immediately after receiving the first post-renewal mailing, to see if that would preempt the barrage to follow, to no avail. They just kept wasting money, month after month, year after year. Was anyone there monitoring the cost/result outcome of their persistent nagging?

    It all sang of loose fiscal policy and lack of oversight, and soured me on the organization for years to come.
    Considering the recent results, maybe we'll see change for the better, maybe not.
    To get me to rejoin, it will take a leader whose skillset is not rubbing the backs of pond scum like McConnell and Schumer, but kicking their asses in the news media, and exposing the filth and corruption of their ilk.
     

    BugI02

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    (This comment is for voting members of the NRA.)
    Keep in mind we have board members who have been elected post-2019 debacle. Indiana Senator Jim Tomes is on the ballot. Not voting for all the incumbents isn't always a good approach.

    I spoke with an NRA Board member (also post 2019-debacle/not on the ballot) yesterday. Lets just say they are working on it. The Compliance Officer position will be a very good step with the independence the position will hold.


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    I spent the last 2 days in a very small area with a longtime NRA-ILA employee who I've known for 6 years. I'll share one of his concerns. The members who left because of WLP... will they return or become the "not until they change the board to XX members" crowd. Then the "HEY! I wanted XX members, the hats are made in Vietnam, and I don't want to get stuff in the mail...RABBLE RABBLE!!" crowd. (OK I added rabble rabble.)

    For what it's worth, everyone in the NRA/NRA-ILA booth agreed: 76 is a very big number.

    My NRA-ILA POC always asks about INGO. Are they up on this? Is there discussion about that? Is moderating a gun owners discussion forum really like herding cats? (OK, I made that one up.) I'm guessing it's because we're a pretty good measure of guns owners in this part of the country.
    Go down to 50 board members, and require one be from each state, as an interim step towards a smaller board
     

    BugI02

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    You are making a lot of assumptions in this. Do you really think they wold waltz into federal court to make a defense by declaring that senator so and so, representatives frick and frack, along with judge no case were all on a junket? Which one sounds more plausible WLP took his niece or unnamed politicians?

    I believe WLP a swamp creature, the type the good guys need to battle the bad guys on a level playing field. The need for such will not go away with the departure of WLP…
    We need more 'Mr Smith goes to Washington' and less 'Mr La Pierre goes to Saville Row'

    The NRA's strength was in moving votes on an issue or for or against politicians depending on their 2A bona fides. The NRA will never be a player at the dark money game nor should they be.

    Whatever politicians Wayne could buy with a $60000 junket could easily be bought out by Zuckerberg or Bezos or Soros, because they are for sale. The people who are solidly pro-2A or 2A adjacent ideally can't be bought at any price and the $60k would be better used for informational purposes about them or legislation they are sponsoring to get the membership involved or to get out the vote - and the quality of your suit doesn't matter for that nor does anything above nice as a restaurant for getting like minded people together to network. Heck, you probably don't even need a suit just khakis and a button down, maybe a sport coat for the extra fussy places

    IMO Mike you are defending the indefensible at this point, the damage is already done. The organization looks like it will survive but not if they try to resume business as usual
     

    cobber

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    The New York jury found that LaPierre “violated his statutory obligation to discharge the duties of his position in good faith,” and that his actions cost the NRA $5.4 million. He has already paid more than $1.3 million back and was ordered to pay the rest back to the organization.

    “This case is about corruption: misuse of funds spent on jets, black cars, five-star hotels, hundreds of thousands of dollars of suits, multimillion-dollar deals to insiders, payments to loyal board members, and pervasive violations of internal controls,” Connell told a jury in a packed New York City courtroom.
    Can the rest of the nation auto-secede NYC?
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Are you channeling your inner @BigRed , or am I missing something?
    I was sitting on aluminum bleachers in a very loud gym when I posted that. I'm on the patio with the grill going, a Macanudo Inspirado White, and a Woodford Reserve on the rock (ice cube, 1 each) so I'm a bit more chill now. Not enough *'s to be channeling Red ;)
     

    BigMoose

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    I was sitting on aluminum bleachers in a very loud gym when I posted that. I'm on the patio with the grill going, a Macanudo Inspirado White, and a Woodford Reserve on the rock (ice cube, 1 each) so I'm a bit more chill now. Not enough *'s to be channeling Red ;)
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    I just channel wisearse energy.

    There are some senators that will get a massive dose tomorrow.
     

    2tonic

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    I was sitting on aluminum bleachers in a very loud gym when I posted that. I'm on the patio with the grill going, a Macanudo Inspirado White, and a Woodford Reserve on the rock (ice cube, 1 each) so I'm a bit more chill now. Not enough *'s to be channeling Red ;)
    Ha-ha...right there with you (although I prefer the Inspirado Orange).
    Just checking the sandbags around your sanity.
     

    Ingomike

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    IMO Mike you are defending the indefensible at this point, the damage is already done. The organization looks like it will survive but not if they try to resume business as usual
    I am just channeling back the crap posted. Nobody knows anything for sure but a lot of cocksure posting going on here probably because most of the complaints are not even from voting members. The posts by most voting members are more measured because if one really is a part of something they are less excited about burning it down.

    I have met many a gun owner that claimed membership but figured out later they were not, though they really did almost believe they were…
     

    jamil

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    Don’t challenge the deeply held beliefs of those sucked into the lefts takedown of the NRA. It may destabilize the universe…
    Jeez, with all the talk about WLP’s takedown being a NRA takedown, you’d think WLP WAS the NRA, instead of the members being the NRA.

    This confusion is as easily resolved as the transgender issue. Males have penises, women have vaginas. The NRA is the membership. WLP was just a corrupt employee, albeit holding up the top spot. So instead of pissing about a corrupt ********er, make the NRA great again.
     

    jamil

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    I am not disputing that there may have been some financial shenanigans, but I would not believe the NY AG or a NY judge if they told me water was wet.
    But then you fall in a pond and see that it the pond water made you wet. Even a broke clock is accurate twice a day.
     

    jamil

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    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. LaPierre is a crook. NRA is portraying itself as a "victim" of him in court, even as they talk out the other side of their mouth and congratulate him elsewhere.

    The question now is - does the NRA remain corrupt without WLP? All indications are "Yes."
    Guess I could have read another post before posting.
     
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