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  • HKFaninCarmel

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    At least she's open and upfront when asked about the possibility of using some RNC funds for their party nominee's legal defense against a politically motivated lawfare campaign by the opposing party. Like she said the decision to do so would be up to a determination by the RNC rules committee. She wouldn't just be able to do it herself. As of yet she has not even been voted in to be an RNC co-chair.

    "Lara Trump was asked by media at Wednesday's event whether she would use funds raised by the RNC to pay legal fees for her father-in-law's numerous criminal and civil cases. In response, she said she didn't know whether it would be allowed under RNC rules but could see such payments as being in line with the interests of the party's rank-and-file members."

    "I think that is a big interest to people. Absolutely," she said, arguing that many Republicans believe the cases against Trump are politically motivated and therefore want to help. "They feel like it's an attack not just on Donald Trump but on this country."
    Up front about it now. They weren’t upfront when they disclosed $40M of donor cash going there before. It’s going to be an expensive cycle and again- if you’re whole image is around being a rich billionairre … why not pay your own bills?


    Blaming Trump for having charges and legal bills is kind of the same energy as blaming the woman with a short skirt that caused her rape.
    Distinct difference between blaming Trump for having legal bills and discussing the merits of GOP donors paying for those legal bills vice Trump paying his own bills.

    One could also question the decision making as to whom he is paying those legal bills.
     

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    Up front about it now. They weren’t upfront when they disclosed $40M of donor cash going there before. It’s going to be an expensive cycle and again- if you’re whole image is around being a rich billionairre … why not pay your own bills?
    You were speaking specifically about Lara Trump's comments to which I responded.
     
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    Ingomike

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    Why do we need to prioritize paying a billionaires legal bills and not winning the election?

    Because winning the election is called a campaign. A campaign is defined as:


    1: a connected series of military operations forming a distinct phase of a war.

    2: a connected series of operations designed to bring about a particular result.


    The billionaires legal bills are from fighting the lawfare tactics the left is doing to stop America First. They are THE campaign. You act like this is still 1992. The normalcy bias is astounding…
     

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    Anyone have a backstory link?
    I got the impression this is about the law that allows patients to try "unproven" or fringe treatments.....

     

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    This is exactly what @HKFaninCarmel does not understand. He is still “frustrated with their inability to guide the party back to the “respectable conservatism” of years past”.

    Noah Rothman recently lamented that a generic conservative would be favored by the polls, and Republicans could taste success once more if only we simply return to our senses and nominate the generic conservative. This conclusion skirts the issue at hand, however. The GOP electorate is not clamoring for a return to a traditional conservative archetype.”

    @HKFaninCarmel does not get that “Trump’s ascendancy is not rooted in conventional political metrics” and keeps posting conventional thinking to the unconventional.

    He [Trump] is the only candidate in either party that embodies a genuine political movement, one with an appeal distinct from traditional policy platforms and partisan ideologies. His direct communication style, unyielding stance against perceived establishment forces, and readiness to challenge political norms resonate deeply with his supporters. It is an emotional connection and one that his political challengers have been unable to emulate let alone surpass. They see in Trump not just a leader, but a symbol of their values, frustrations, and aspirations. The most faithful supporters even believe he embodies America.”

    The future of the GOP, therefore, is not just about choosing between different political strategies or ideologies. It’s about understanding and responding to a new political reality — one where the electorate seeks not just policies but a movement that aligns with their deepest convictions and emotions.”

    “There is no leader within the party that can currently accomplish this feat, and waxing on about the public’s apparent refusal to “see reason” is part of the problem. This dismissive attitude of Trump’s base only serves to deepen the divide between the old guard and the new base. Trump’s challengers failed because they did not communicate a compelling vision. Trump himself has a vision, and in the face of numerous challengers, it has proven near bulletproof.”

    “The Republican Party’s trajectory is inextricably linked to the unique political movement created by Trump. Acknowledging and understanding this phenomenon is crucial for the party’s evolution. As the GOP looks ahead, the key to its resurgence lies not in policy innovation but in the ability to inspire and lead a movement that resonates as powerfully with its base as Trump’s has.
    Trump isn’t going away — nostalgic longing for the past won’t defeat him.

    Well explained and Paul Ryan has acknowledged this is happening, likely why he quit.
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    This is exactly what @HKFaninCarmel does not understand. He is still “frustrated with their inability to guide the party back to the “respectable conservatism” of years past”.

    Noah Rothman recently lamented that a generic conservative would be favored by the polls, and Republicans could taste success once more if only we simply return to our senses and nominate the generic conservative. This conclusion skirts the issue at hand, however. The GOP electorate is not clamoring for a return to a traditional conservative archetype.”

    @HKFaninCarmel does not get that “Trump’s ascendancy is not rooted in conventional political metrics” and keeps posting conventional thinking to the unconventional.

    He [Trump] is the only candidate in either party that embodies a genuine political movement, one with an appeal distinct from traditional policy platforms and partisan ideologies. His direct communication style, unyielding stance against perceived establishment forces, and readiness to challenge political norms resonate deeply with his supporters. It is an emotional connection and one that his political challengers have been unable to emulate let alone surpass. They see in Trump not just a leader, but a symbol of their values, frustrations, and aspirations. The most faithful supporters even believe he embodies America.”

    The future of the GOP, therefore, is not just about choosing between different political strategies or ideologies. It’s about understanding and responding to a new political reality — one where the electorate seeks not just policies but a movement that aligns with their deepest convictions and emotions.”

    “There is no leader within the party that can currently accomplish this feat, and waxing on about the public’s apparent refusal to “see reason” is part of the problem. This dismissive attitude of Trump’s base only serves to deepen the divide between the old guard and the new base. Trump’s challengers failed because they did not communicate a compelling vision. Trump himself has a vision, and in the face of numerous challengers, it has proven near bulletproof.”

    “The Republican Party’s trajectory is inextricably linked to the unique political movement created by Trump. Acknowledging and understanding this phenomenon is crucial for the party’s evolution. As the GOP looks ahead, the key to its resurgence lies not in policy innovation but in the ability to inspire and lead a movement that resonates as powerfully with its base as Trump’s has.
    Trump isn’t going away — nostalgic longing for the past won’t defeat him.

    Well explained and Paul Ryan has acknowledged this is happening, likely why he quit.
    Also, from the article-
    It is an emotional connection and one that his political challengers have been unable to emulate let alone surpass. They see in Trump not just a leader, but a symbol of their values, frustrations, and aspirations. The most faithful supporters even believe he embodies America.
    It is clear to even this writer that America First is Trump first. I don't care about the person but the country and results.

    There is no leader within the party that can currently accomplish this feat, and waxing on about the public’s apparent refusal to “see reason” is part of the problem. This dismissive attitude of Trump’s base only serves to deepen the divide between the old guard and the new base.
    Trump's base will dismiss anything he does. His unforced errors are never a problem on Truth Social. The problem is that the rest of the country didn't. You need a majority to win as a mob. Otherwise, you must expand your base to get to a majority.

    He can steamroll a primary with this base, but I hope he can figure out how to grow it enough to win.
     

    Ingomike

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    Also, from the article-

    It is clear to even this writer that America First is Trump first. I don't care about the person but the country and results.
    I posted that quote.

    Trump's base will dismiss anything he does. His unforced errors are never a problem on Truth Social. The problem is that the rest of the country didn't. You need a majority to win as a mob. Otherwise, you must expand your base to get to a majority.

    He can steamroll a primary with this base, but I hope he can figure out how to grow it enough to win.
    You really just do not get where we are in politics today, otherwise known as what time it is. Everything you say sounds like what I said in Bush v Gore, it sounds so outdated, almost nostalgic.

    If this doesn’t turn around now, you will be saying the same things about candidates that can win over the 100 million illegals to win the next presidential election.

    Trump has said and done things I could only dream of eight years ago. I will support him to the end to fulfill more of them.
     
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