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  • Clayshoot07

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    Sep 29, 2017
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    Can any of you fine folks recommend a procedure for rust bluing? Maybe with a YouTube link or something similar? I have watched several but would like some first hand knowledge before I tackle my first project.
     

    EyeCarry

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    May 10, 2014
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    Bloomington
    I browned my old muzzleloader kit barrel years and years ago. It still looks great.
    I don't remember what brand of solution it was. Easy enough though. Blue bottle?
     

    ed1838

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    Feb 20, 2022
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    Seymour
    I have not heard of rust bluing I am old but new here will have to check it out. Have some black oxide stuff at work. I have used on some small parts replacement screws and a trigger guard.
     

    IUKalash429

    Bullet Hose
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    Apr 6, 2019
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    Rum Ham
    Rust blued a couple Recreator AK receivers to match the beautiful wear on their accompanying surplus Romanian PM d. 90 kits:
    1. Sand blast the metal
    2. Put on gloves
    3. Degrease
    4. Keep gloves on
    5. Apply a thin layer of Brownell's Rust Blue (or similar hydrochloric and nitric acid formula) on the metal
    6. Let sit in a warm, humid environment and allow everything to rust
    7. Move metal to a boiling pot of distilled water for 30 minutes
    8. With gloves still on, pat everything dry and scrub with a carding brush or 0000 steel wool
    Repeat these steps until you achieve the level of blueing you want ... don't forget the gloves!

    A few additional steps were taken to create this BFPU blotchy patina, but I could not be happier with the results (if you simply follow 1-8 and don't try to intentionally distress the finish, your metal will give a dark, deep, consistent color):

    Q7u7XSqh.jpg
     

    92FSTech

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    Dec 24, 2020
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    North Central
    I did an old S&W Model 31 a few months back that I got cheap because somebody else had tried to cold blue it, and it had not gone well. I used Mark Lee Express Blue that I got from Brownells, because it's quicker than some other methods. I first detail stripped the gun and soaked it in evaporust for a couple of days, then brushed off all the residue with steel wool. Then it got a bath in acetone, and completely degreased. There was some etching on the side plate that I mostly polished off, then more degreasing.

    I wasn't sure what the rust blue would do to areas of tight tolerances, so I opted to cold blue the small parts. In hindsight, I likely would have been fine to rust blue them. I left the hammer and trigger alone apart from brushing off some surface rust and oiling them. The frame, barrel, cylinder, side plate, and crane got the rust blue treatment.

    I heated the parts to about 150 degrees in an oven, then applied 2 coats of the bluing solution, allowed them to set for several minutes, then boiled in a pot of water on the stove. They say to use distilled water...I used melted snow. Once boiled, remove, brush off the rust scale and repeat. This process got repeated over and over again...took about 7 hours total to get it all done, as I did the smaller parts in one batch and the frame/barrel in another. Once you start, gloves stay on....and if you get any oil on them whatsoever, change them before touching the gun as it'll keep the blueing solution from working. When finished, I washed the parts thoroughly and let them soak in oil for another day before re-assemble.

    Overall, I'm happy with it. It's not perfect...the barrel didn't take the bluing as well as I'd hoped...I'm not sure if there was oil down in the lettering that didn't get completely removed during degreasing, or what...but you can see that the bluing is lighter around the rollmarks. It's also possible I could have done more coats....I did 9, and it was 4am by that point, and it looked good, so I decided it was enough. It faded just a bit as it dried. I still think it's much better than it was, and some companies charge more for that "battleworn" look these days anyway :D.

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    Clayshoot07

    Plinker
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Sep 29, 2017
    51
    18
    North Central
    Rust blued a couple Recreator AK receivers to match the beautiful wear on their accompanying surplus Romanian PM d. 90 kits:
    1. Sand blast the metal
    2. Put on gloves
    3. Degrease
    4. Keep gloves on
    5. Apply a thin layer of Brownell's Rust Blue (or similar hydrochloric and nitric acid formula) on the metal
    6. Let sit in a warm, humid environment and allow everything to rust
    7. Move metal to a boiling pot of distilled water for 30 minutes
    8. With gloves still on, pat everything dry and scrub with a carding brush or 0000 steel wool
    Repeat these steps until you achieve the level of blueing you want ... don't forget the gloves!

    A few additional steps were taken to create this BFPU blotchy patina, but I could not be happier with the results (if you simply follow 1-8 and don't try to intentionally distress the finish, your metal will give a dark, deep, consistent color):

    Q7u7XSqh.jpg
    Looks amazing, makes me want an AK now
     

    Clayshoot07

    Plinker
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    Sep 29, 2017
    51
    18
    North Central
    I did an old S&W Model 31 a few months back that I got cheap because somebody else had tried to cold blue it, and it had not gone well. I used Mark Lee Express Blue that I got from Brownells, because it's quicker than some other methods. I first detail stripped the gun and soaked it in evaporust for a couple of days, then brushed off all the residue with steel wool. Then it got a bath in acetone, and completely degreased. There was some etching on the side plate that I mostly polished off, then more degreasing.

    I wasn't sure what the rust blue would do to areas of tight tolerances, so I opted to cold blue the small parts. In hindsight, I likely would have been fine to rust blue them. I left the hammer and trigger alone apart from brushing off some surface rust and oiling them. The frame, barrel, cylinder, side plate, and crane got the rust blue treatment.

    I heated the parts to about 150 degrees in an oven, then applied 2 coats of the bluing solution, allowed them to set for several minutes, then boiled in a pot of water on the stove. They say to use distilled water...I used melted snow. Once boiled, remove, brush off the rust scale and repeat. This process got repeated over and over again...took about 7 hours total to get it all done, as I did the smaller parts in one batch and the frame/barrel in another. Once you start, gloves stay on....and if you get any oil on them whatsoever, change them before touching the gun as it'll keep the blueing solution from working. When finished, I washed the parts thoroughly and let them soak in oil for another day before re-assemble.

    Overall, I'm happy with it. It's not perfect...the barrel didn't take the bluing as well as I'd hoped...I'm not sure if there was oil down in the lettering that didn't get completely removed during degreasing, or what...but you can see that the bluing is lighter around the rollmarks. It's also possible I could have done more coats....I did 9, and it was 4am by that point, and it looked good, so I decided it was enough. It faded just a bit as it dried. I still think it's much better than it was, and some companies charge more for that "battleworn" look these days anyway :D.

    Before:
    51898597094_e2119f7279_c.jpg


    51897303692_719e1a4506_c.jpg


    After:
    51897303647_6b69c00d02_c.jpg


    51898263531_c014b543d4_c.jpg
    It may not be perfect but it surely is a significant improvement.
     

    HCRMPD1

    Marksman
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    49   1   0
    Jan 4, 2012
    223
    43
    Shelbyville
    I did an old S&W Model 31 a few months back that I got cheap because somebody else had tried to cold blue it, and it had not gone well. I used Mark Lee Express Blue that I got from Brownells, because it's quicker than some other methods. I first detail stripped the gun and soaked it in evaporust for a couple of days, then brushed off all the residue with steel wool. Then it got a bath in acetone, and completely degreased. There was some etching on the side plate that I mostly polished off, then more degreasing.

    I wasn't sure what the rust blue would do to areas of tight tolerances, so I opted to cold blue the small parts. In hindsight, I likely would have been fine to rust blue them. I left the hammer and trigger alone apart from brushing off some surface rust and oiling them. The frame, barrel, cylinder, side plate, and crane got the rust blue treatment.

    I heated the parts to about 150 degrees in an oven, then applied 2 coats of the bluing solution, allowed them to set for several minutes, then boiled in a pot of water on the stove. They say to use distilled water...I used melted snow. Once boiled, remove, brush off the rust scale and repeat. This process got repeated over and over again...took about 7 hours total to get it all done, as I did the smaller parts in one batch and the frame/barrel in another. Once you start, gloves stay on....and if you get any oil on them whatsoever, change them before touching the gun as it'll keep the blueing solution from working. When finished, I washed the parts thoroughly and let them soak in oil for another day before re-assemble.

    Overall, I'm happy with it. It's not perfect...the barrel didn't take the bluing as well as I'd hoped...I'm not sure if there was oil down in the lettering that didn't get completely removed during degreasing, or what...but you can see that the bluing is lighter around the rollmarks. It's also possible I could have done more coats....I did 9, and it was 4am by that point, and it looked good, so I decided it was enough. It faded just a bit as it dried. I still think it's much better than it was, and some companies charge more for that "battleworn" look these days anyway :D.

    Before:
    51898597094_e2119f7279_c.jpg


    51897303692_719e1a4506_c.jpg


    After:
    51897303647_6b69c00d02_c.jpg


    51898263531_c014b543d4_c.jpg
    Looks really good compared to how it looked before you got ahold of it.
     
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