Russia vs. Ukraine Part 3

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  • Kdf101

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    This looks to be a better video.

    I’m not sure how new the Russian ships are, or the state of their training. I hope our navy would do better. Russia seems powerless to stop their navy from sinking and Ukraine doesn’t even have any real combat ships.

    This is probably the future. Especially when AI comes fully online. You could build small, quiet, nearly u detectable drones and have them submerged and just waiting for their orders.
     

    DragonGunner

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    So a recap of all this. Ukraine was pretty much ran by Russia, or at least influenced and Russians lived there and its on their border. In 2014 CIA overthrew the Ukraine government and set up that US, Britain and (good) Ukrianes would run the country kicking the Russians out. Ukraine then becomes the 51st state of America.

    The Bidens and others come in to start up $$ laundering for politicians to get rich and Black Rock comes in to get rich on business. Meanwhile Russia loses more ground and sees what the CIA and America is doing and for some unknown reason takes offense this is being done to a country on their border.

    And to think if the CIA had just stayed out, politicians and business gotta do something I guess. Its only our money. What am I missing here?
     

    Super Bee

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    So a recap of all this. Ukraine was pretty much ran by Russia, or at least influenced and Russians lived there and its on their border. In 2014 CIA overthrew the Ukraine government and set up that US, Britain and (good) Ukrianes would run the country kicking the Russians out. Ukraine then becomes the 51st state of America.

    The Bidens and others come in to start up $$ laundering for politicians to get rich and Black Rock comes in to get rich on business. Meanwhile Russia loses more ground and sees what the CIA and America is doing and for some unknown reason takes offense this is being done to a country on their border.

    And to think if the CIA had just stayed out, politicians and business gotta do something I guess. Its only our money. What am I missing here?

    Sounds about right.

    Matt Gaetz basically said this on Tim Pool. Ukraine was nothing more than a place for those in power to launder their money. Thats why no peace deal, too much money to be made.
     

    KG1

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    "Trump has suggested a workable and novel way for Congress to help Ukraine."


    As the Russian-Ukrainian war enters a pivotal year, supporters of Ukraine face similar political opposition in the House of Representatives where the Speaker has declared a Senate-passed funding bill dead on arrival.

    How to resolve the impasse and help Ukraine? Of all people, former President Donald Trump has suggested a workaround -- convert the cost of the weapons transfers into a loan. Trump even specified that the loan would bear no interest and would only be paid "if Ukraine ever strikes it rich."
     

    bobzilla

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    I was probably in that group. I was outraged Russia invaded. I still think they are the bad guys. But then I realized there are no good guys, only victims.
    the only good guys in this scenario are the civilian population just trying to survive like the rest of us, but now they get to dodge bullets, conscription and missiles.
     
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    the only good guys in this scenario are the civilian population just trying to survive like the rest of us, but now they get to dodge bullets, conscription and missiles.
    I'd say there's also a lot of good guys among the rank and file Ukrainian soldiers, too. I'm sure lots of them are just trying to defend their homeland from a foreign invader, and despite all the corruption and evil that takes place between NATO and the current US-back regime in Ukraine, you can't really fault someone for just trying to prevent their neighboring country from marching in and taking them over with military force. I bet most folks here on INGO would readily take up arms to repel a foreign invader as well, without any thought given to the morals of whatever regime is currently in power in our country, or whether or not that regime was illegitimately installed.
     

    bobzilla

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    I'd say there's also a lot of good guys among the rank and file Ukrainian soldiers, too. I'm sure lots of them are just trying to defend their homeland from a foreign invader, and despite all the corruption and evil that takes place between NATO and the current US-back regime in Ukraine, you can't really fault someone for just trying to prevent their neighboring country from marching in and taking them over with military force. I bet most folks here on INGO would readily take up arms to repel a foreign invader as well, without any thought given to the morals of whatever regime is currently in power in our country, or whether or not that regime was illegitimately installed.
    you mean like our current "leadership"?
     

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