Haley 2024?

[KG1]

I wouldn't go as far as saying HKFan is a biden supporter. Now to address the second sentence.

Some people see a problem with others that keep shi**ing on a likely GOP nominee that they would be voting for in the general election if indeed they are professing to do so.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I just see a man who can't get out of a court room

He's in court rooms because the Dem machine keeps him in court rooms with their BS persecutions (not a typo).

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

I wouldnt expect anything less from a biden supporter!

I missed where he said he was a biden supporter. I thought I saw a post saying that he would be voting for the GOP candidate in the general election.

Am I mistaken?

I wouldn't go as far as saying HKFan is a biden supporter. Now to address the second sentence.

Some people see a problem with others that keep shi**ing on a likely GOP nominee that they would be voting for in the general election if indeed they are professing to do so.

A little background as the name doesn’t offer much-
1- I did two campaign cycles in a Pro-2A PAC as the strategy director- ran ads, did the voter guide, ran social media for years, etc. all aimed to elect Republicans. Never touched Indiana elections, but I do live in Carmel.
2- I have worked with Republicans who move legislation and Republicans who stall legislation.
3- Been published in various papers to provide alternative opinions to left-wing editorial boards as states advanced pro-2a legislation.
4- Voted Trump in 2016, 2020, and will again vote for the GOP nominee in 2024.
5- I despise Joe Biden and will not vote for a D.

Also- people are allowed to criticize the people making decisions when they do dumb things. If I called Trump a RINO/Chamber of Commerce Republican/Neocon/etc. would that be an ok criticism?

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

He's in court rooms because the Dem machine keeps him in court rooms with their BS persecutions (not a typo).

You can whine about the game or win the game. I hate the excuses.

You can cry about mail in voting or win mail in voting. You can carry about ballot harvesting or win ballot harvesting. You can cry about court cases or lawyer up and fight back. (FTR- Trump appears to finally be doing that against Fanni Willis.) Trump has to fight and win on the battlefield as it appears, not the hypothetical one. The billionaire victim image is bizarre to me.

 

[Onebad06vtx]

You make it sound like Biden really did get 81 million votes,the most votes EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

 

[BugI02]

How much of her cash is from Dem supporters?

Did you say the same thing about MAGA candidates bankrolled by Chuck Schumer in R primaries because the left knew they couldn’t win?

Haley is a Republican, one that was appointed by Trump.

The orange kool-aid is strong around here. Don’t let your love of Trump change your sense of reality. Her positions are generally aligned with [2004 country club] GOP.

Fixy

 

[KG1]

You're not worthy of my vote, and I'll let you know why, but I will still vote for you anyway.

 

[BugI02]

If it's just her being in a position to assume the GOP nomination IF Trump were not able to take the nomination, then why continue the barbs and attacks? She could take the high road and say that she's going to continue to do town halls, listen to voters, make public appearances; however, she's going to step away from the process and allow Trump to be the GOP candidate. She could work WITH Trump rather than against him.

But that doesn't get you all those delicious leftover campaign millions to keep when you do finally drop out, and not damaging Trump doesn't pay for your future C-suite job at a defense contractor

 

[Tombs]

Also- people are allowed to criticize the people making decisions when they do dumb things. If I called Trump a RINO/Chamber of Commerce Republican/Neocon/etc. would that be an ok criticism?

I'd say that's horrifically off base as he is opposed hardest by those people. Ala Lincoln project.

I mean a criticism can absolutely be argued.

 

[BugI02]

It’s not an incredible reach that he gets a felon title. They want nothing more than to put felon on every ad and every billboard because polling shows people don’t want a felon in the WH. Comparing this to the pee tape myth is a reach.

By the time they finally get there most people will see that Trump has been subjected to communist style show trials and will discount the verdicts as not indicative of blind justice. I doubt a conviction in any one of the trials will matter as much as you think

 

[BugI02]

You can whine about the game or win the game. I hate the excuses.

Yeah, you SO were not whining about DeSantis going down for the count

 

[BugI02]

and could lose against a historically unpopular candidate this time, is that he is seen by even potential voters [hand picked by the New York Times] as conceited/egotistical/self-righteous/narcissist/flamboyant/irritating/crazy.

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

By the time they finally get there most people will see that Trump has been subjected to communist style show trials and will discount the verdicts as not indicative of blind justice. I doubt a conviction in any one of the trials will matter as much as you think

I think a felon title would be devastating. He can lose millions in the BS suits. But being a felon running for President stings, no matter how it comes.

Yeah, you SO were not whining about DeSantis going down for the count

I would have picked him. I don’t think he did great on the campaign, but it is what it is. I never blamed the deep state for it.

I'd say that's horrifically off base as he is opposed hardest by those people. Ala Lincoln project.

I mean a criticism can absolutely be argued.

The point was that those are ‘acceptable’ criticisms.

 

[BugI02]

Utopia always out polls an individual, even if that individual was Jesus Christ…

And 'None of the above' outpolls Nikki even when she is the only candidate allowed to be on the ballot

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

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Those are people who said they would vote for Trump. People’s opinions, not the staff. The staff would never vote Trump. That is how people view the man. It is reality.

 

[BugI02]

I would have picked him. I don’t think he did great on the campaign, but it is what it is. I never blamed the deep state for it.

No, you blamed Trump supporters for not having the same delusions vision as you

When the man we wanted was not the one you thought we should want, exercising our freedom to choose became the problem - so much so that you're willing to keep shilling for a neocon with no chance of winning simply to damage Trump

I really think you don't want a republican to win if it has to be Trump

 

[BigRed]

I am confident I will not be giving my vote for either of these ********.

 

[LeftyGunner]

You make it sound like Biden really did get 81 million votes,the most votes EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

Nobody believes 81 million people came out for Biden…those were 81 million votes against Trump…that’s how much the rest of the us are disgusted by him.

In the time since he lost the 2020 election his “certification” conspiracy failed to usurp the will of the electorate, his loyal followers stormed the capital, his SCOTUS overturned RvW, and he’s collected 90-some felony charges and half a billion dollars worth of judgements in a never-ending whirlpool of legal losses.

That seems to be consolidating likely Republican voters behind Trump, but it is abhorrent to the rest of the electorate…and that is a powerful motivator for several different blocks of voters that normally stay home and aren‘t likely to appear on political pollsters’ call lists.

The only people who view trump as a victim of a rigged system are the people who primarily consume right-wing media… the left and the middle view him as an imbecile and a grifter who is finally facing accountability for the first time in his life.

Millions of Biden voters were people who voted reliably Republican in past Presidential elections, but cannot pull the lever for Trump because of personal ethical or moral reasons. Those people didn’t want to vote for Biden in 2020, but they did…and those same people will likely vote for Biden in 2024 for the exact same reason…to stop Trump.

The only thing Biden has going for him in 2024 is that he isn’t Trump. Any other candidate robs Biden of this appeal, and gives the people who crossed the aisle to stop trump a reason to come back or stay home on Election Day.

I would vote for Hailey over Biden...but I’ll show up first in line to vote for Biden’s vegetative shell again if I have no other choice but Trump.

 

[BugI02]

Those are people who said they would vote for Trump. People’s opinions, not the staff. The staff would never vote Trump. That is how people view the man. It is reality.

Reality can never be found in the pages of WaPo or the NYT, as anyone paying a modicum attention can easily see. Do you really think they wouldn't survey hundreds of people and then go with the ones who allow them to make the point they wish? Do you think that was a random sample of republican 'men on the street'?

 

[Shadow01]

Do you think Biden would steamroll a D primary right now? How many Biden hats have you ever seen? The media and Team Biden will dismiss anything he does wrong because they are team players. But the two aren't the same. In my opinion, Biden's not being sure where he is right now is the only thing keeping Trump well-positioned in the polls. I am confident that the DNC folks are quietly polling Trump v Harris, Trump v Newsom, Trump v Shapiro, etc.

I’m not talking about the D machine. I’m talking about voters that will say they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Trump, but magically have the ability to vote for a man that walks around in depends that are full to the waistband. If that is what we are looking at, then by all means those brainless voters deserve another 4 years of joe and an additional 8 from kamalla. It is the RINO voters that I speak of. They are the only group that has the ability to move brown streak joe into the lead.