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  • jwamplerusa

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    I was traveling today, and I don't believe I saw a single flag at half staff.

    Just sad, and disgusted, and maybe a little mad. Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.
     

    actaeon277

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    There's people that already forgot 9/11.

    And that was only 2 decades ago.


    Pearl Harbor is a distant memory, and for many.. a nonexistent memory.
     

    actaeon277

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    Pearl Harbor: 16 Days To Die – Three Sailors trapped in the USS West Virginia​



    However the day after the attack, crewmen realised that there was an eerie banging noise coming from the foward hull of the USS West Virginia, which had sunk in the harbour.



    It didn’t take long for the crew and Marines based at the harbour to realise that there was nothing they could do. They could not get to these trapped sailors in time. Months later rescue and salvage men who raised the USS West Virginia found the bodies of three men who had found an airlock in a storeroom but had eventually run out of air.



    They were Ronald Endicott, 18, Clifford Olds, 20, and Louis Costin, 21. Within the storeroom was a calendar and they had crossed off every day that they had been alive – 16 days had been crossed off using a red pencil. The men would have been below deck when the attack happened, so it is unlikely that they knew what was happening.



    16 days.
    Trapped.


    In truth, the US Navy had never told their families how long the three men had survived for, instead telling them that they had been killed in the attack on the harbour. Their brothers and sisters eventually discovered the truth but were so saddened that they did not speak of it.


    Of course.
    Why would you tell the family that.
    You LIE.
    You always lie.
    They went quick.
    It was painless.
    Stuff like that.
    It does NO GOOD to tell the truth to the family.


    Later on, in any investigation, to improve the ship, or procedure... then tell the truth.
     

    ZurokSlayer7X9

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    This may be kind of corny, but Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor is probably in my top 10 favorite movies. The part where that black sailor (don't remember his name) picked up the duel M2 mounted gun and shot down the zero is my favorite part.
     

    actaeon277

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    This may be kind of corny, but Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor is probably in my top 10 favorite movies. The part where that black sailor (don't remember his name) picked up the duel M2 mounted gun and shot down the zero is my favorite part.
    That was probably the ONLY part of the movie that was any good, because it was about the ONLY part based on fact.


    Tora, Tora, Tora was better. And was a mile closer to the truth.
     

    actaeon277

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    This may be kind of corny, but Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor is probably in my top 10 favorite movies. The part where that black sailor (don't remember his name) picked up the duel M2 mounted gun and shot down the zero is my favorite part.

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    Doris Miller (October 12, 1919 – November 24, 1943) was an American Naval cook who was the first Black recipient of the Navy Cross and a nominee for the Medal of Honor. As a mess attendant second class[1][2] in the United States Navy, Miller helped carry wounded sailors to safety during the attack on Pearl Harbor. He then manned an anti-aircraft gun and, despite no prior training in gunnery, shot down between four and six enemy planes.
     

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    My Grandfather was 50 years old when Pearl Harbor was attacked. He spent several years using his toolmaker skills at Ohio Thermometer making things for the war effort. My Father was a Junior at OSU studying Mechanical Engineering. He enlisted in the Army in early 1943 and served stateside training combat engineer replacements until January 1945 and then was ordered to India, then to Burma. He did not get home until spring 1946.
    His cousin was drafted off the farm in early 1944, was sent to England in May 1944, was attached to the 90th division and went to France in mid June. His company was advancing in late July to attack through a field when artillery fire began hitting, he was wounded in the leg and couldn't walk. A medic dressed his wound and apologized for having to leave him because others more seriously injured were being evacuated first. He laid in that field with artillery fire incoming for 8 hours, was wounded in the foot by shrapnel, and when he finally reached an aid station was immediately sent to a field hospital. There, the doctor decided he needed to be evacuated to England and he got his one and only airplane ride on a medevac C-47. After months recovering he was sent back to the continent in mid November, and when the Battle of the Bulge happened wound up with severe frostbite. He had 4 toes amputated and was sent to a hospital in France to recover. He was still not sent home and was assigned as an MP and truck driver in France finally getting home in early 1946. After he got back to the farm he went back to farming until his death in 1986.
    No heroics for these men, just a determination to do what was necessary to get the job done.
     

    actaeon277

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    Spoiler:
    I always hoped that the F-14s were turned loose on the Japanese invaders.
    Well, the punch would have been the Crusaders and Intruders.
    The battleships would have been a hard nut to crack. Most of our stuff now is designed for an enemy with thin skins.
     
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