Indianapolis Flock security camera opinions

[Dog1]

Hooligans in Britain has a way to deal with them FLOCK or speed cameras...just saying

 

[rosejm]

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Hooligans in Britain has a way to deal with them FLOCK or speed cameras...just saying

I don't think that level of destruction is even required. An appropriately aimed spitwad or airborn shopping bag will still disable the camera and not earn you a felony.

And maybe that's not even needed. Perhaps it's just a sign ziptied to the pole for awareness

 

[Dog1]

I don't think that level of destruction is even required. An appropriately aimed spitwad or airborn shopping bag will still disable the camera and not earn you a felony.

And maybe that's not even needed. Perhaps it's just a sign ziptied to the pole for awareness

I think it's appropriate. Just to be sure.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

FLOCK takes it a step further and aggregates those data points, rather than simply tossing out the "check" when it returns clean.

But FLOCK isn't doing anything with the plate numbers (other than taking pictures of them and storing the pics). They're not checking anything, nor do they have access to anything to determine whether it's "clean" or not. That's what Denny has been trying to tell everyone all along.

 

[rosejm]

But FLOCK isn't doing anything with the plate numbers (other than taking pictures of them and storing the pics). They're not checking anything, nor do they have access to anything to determine whether it's "clean" or not. That's what Denny has been trying to tell everyone all along.

Perhaps in a "well we didn't do it" way... those plate numbers are going to the local authorities and checked for stolen/expired/wanted statuses. That's the "service" that is being sold to the government.

They're also keeping the pictures/plate numbers after submission, and that database is their work product so they can sell it to any other interested parties who are willing to pay.

License Plate Recognition Cameras

License plate readers play a critical role in the national crime and safety conversation. This is true especially as communities, businesses, and public safety institutions increasingly rely on technology to drive insights to generate leads and solve and prevent criminal activities.

www.flocksafety.com

Flock Safety cameras apply machine learning to the footage they capture to identify important details that traditional LPR cameras overlook. Besides just a license plate number, Flock Safety captures and organizes vehicles into categories based on:

• Make
• Model
• Color
• Resident or non-resident vehicle
• Timestamp
• Type of plate (standard v. temporary)
• Damage or alterations (i.e. broken taillight, after-market wheels) - ed. note: this includes bumper stickers!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Well, perhaps in a round about way... those plate numbers are going to the local authorities and checked for stolen/expired/wanted statuses. That's the "service" that is being sold to the government.

They're also keeping the pictures/plate numbers after submission, and that database is their work product so they can sell it to any other interested parties who are willing to pay.

I'm not sure of the legalities, but I would think there would be conditions established in contracts to prevent that. At least I hope so.

 

[Dog1]

I'm not sure of the legalities, but I would think there would be conditions established in contracts to prevent that. At least I hope so.

And if there is conditions that are violated don't forget they will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Don't you see..
It's in the interest of keeping everyone safe.

Neighborhood Safety

Help deter criminals and generate investigative leads for law enforcement to solve crimes quickly

www.flocksafety.com

 

[rosejm]

I'm not sure of the legalities, but I would think there would be conditions established in contracts to prevent that. At least I hope so.

I'd prefer to eliminate the ability, rather than rely on contractual duty. Similar to how warrant-less FISA searches would only be used on terrorists. For varying definitions of terrorism. Or whenever it's convenient... but when and why is Top Secret National Security.


And I'm still not OK with this aggregation of data even if it's only going to the government.

Don't you see..
It's in the interest of keeping everyone safe.

Well then, I stand corrected! Who needs protection from government overreach, as long as we're only using it to identify and capture criminals...

 

[loudgroove]

I'd prefer to eliminate the ability, rather than rely on contractual duty. Similar to how warrant-less FISA searches would only be used on terrorists. For varying definitions of terrorism. Or whenever it's convenient... but when and why is Top Secret National Security.


And I'm still not OK with this aggregation of data even if it's only going to the government.




Well then, I stand corrected! Who needs protection from government overreach, as long as we're only using it to identify and capture criminals...

I agree that we should do away with anything that is subject to government abuse and overreach. And let us not forget many liberal politicians have tried to make criminals out of law-abiding gun owning citizens in one form or another.

 

[rosejm]

FIFY - two wings, same bird.

I agree that we should do away with anything that is subject to government abuse and overreach. And let us not forget many liberal politicians have tried to make criminals out of law-abiding gun owning citizens people exercising their rights in one form or another.

 

[loudgroove]

FIFY

better said!

 

[thunderchicken]

How do these Flock cameras differ from the patrol car mounted license plate readers or even the cameras used on toll roads or bridges?

 

[cobber]

Don't you see..
It's in the interest of keeping everyone safe.

Neighborhood Safety

Help deter criminals and generate investigative leads for law enforcement to solve crimes quickly

www.flocksafety.com

Lafayette's new Public Safety building.

 

[firecadet613]

But FLOCK isn't doing anything with the plate numbers (other than taking pictures of them and storing the pics). They're not checking anything, nor do they have access to anything to determine whether it's "clean" or not. That's what Denny has been trying to tell everyone all along.

Sure. They have a giant database of license plate numbers. Enter a plate number and see exactly when and where that car was...

 

[Denny347]

Flock sounds to me like a government contractor of some sort with maybe as agenda of their own or could be colluding with any said political party or any other thing that we aren't in the know of. I know this sounds like I am wearing a tin foil hat, But is there proof that something like this Isn't happening?

You cannot prove a negative. If you are advocating a collusion, it is up to YOU to show your work.

Now getting on to the no privacy in public. The average guy gets upset when they notice that some dude is staring their ol lady up and down, or a lady notices the same thing with their ol man getting stared at. Is this not the same? It's called being respectful not to do that. And one should expect the same from the government!! And something that my grandpa always use to say, just because you can do something does not mean you should.

We are speaking about legality, not "respect".

 

[armalitesheepdog]

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Lafayette's new Public Safety building.

Looks very "Upscale". They used to just be a Police Station

 

[loudgroove]

You cannot prove a negative. If you are advocating a collusion, it is up to YOU to show your work.

We are speaking about legality, not "respect".

You are right on both accounts, but it is a legitimate uneasy feeling that makes it worth fighting against.

 

[Denny347]

They're also keeping the pictures/plate numbers after submission, and that database is their work product so they can sell it to any other interested parties who are willing to pay.

I'm still not clear how a company monetizes a picture of the rear of an anonymous vehicle with a location. There are no owner details associated with the pictures. Why would a company PAY for that data?

 

[Denny347]

it is a legitimate uneasy feeling that makes it worth fighting against.

I had the same feeling. I didn't fight it for fear of soiling my pants. A quick pitstop to the restroom solved it.