Ballistic Knives - Why are these banned?

[BigMoose]

Section 35-47-5-2 - Knife with a detachable blade
It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a detachable blade that may be ejected from the handle as a projectile by means of gas, a spring, or any other device contained in the handle of the knife.

IC 35-47-5-2

Amended by P.L. 289-2013, SEC. 21, eff. 7/1/2013.As added by P.L. 311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L. 70-2000, SEC.2.
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So.. why did someone see to ban these things?

Now that we have little else to.. unban, How about us INGO folks working together to get the last silly thing in this section of IC repealed?

 

[Wabatuckian]

It probably went along with when automatic knives were banned, in the misguided interest of keeping weapons off the street.

These shouldn't be banned, of course.

With that said, why would someone want one of these things? Or, more precisely, do they have any practical use beyond the cool factor?

I just can't see using it in a self-defense situation: You start with a knife, but then you shoot the blade. You might miss. A hit would likely fail to incapacitate, and you're down a weapon.

 

[BigMoose]

It probably went along with when automatic knives were banned, in the misguided interest of keeping weapons off the street.

These shouldn't be banned, of course.

With that said, why would someone want one of these things? Or, more precisely, do they have any practical use beyond the cool factor?

I just can't see using it in a self-defense situation: You start with a knife, but then you shoot the blade. You might miss. A hit would likely fail to incapacitate, and you're down a weapon.

Like throwing stars, they are nothing but dumb dangerous toys..

However I want to live in a state where I can say nothing is banned.. and this is the last thing standing in the way.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Like throwing stars, they are nothing but dumb dangerous toys..

However I want to live in a state where I can say nothing is banned.. and this is the last thing standing in the way.

Still can't buy a car from a car lot on Sundays...

 

[BigMoose]

Still can't buy a car from a car lot on Sundays...

Well we should fix that too.

 

[shootersix]

Like throwing stars, they are nothing but dumb dangerous toys..

However I want to live in a state where I can say nothing is banned.. and this is the last thing standing in the way.

Well unlike throwing stars, they have a hell of a lot more penetration.

Throwing stars were a nuisance weapon, meant to slow down the pursuing person, “ninja stars” only caused real damage when they were coated in poison (like poo!)

The spetnaz knife had enough energy to penetrate, and fyi bullet proof vests are bullet proof, not knife proof or stab proof, and with the energy generated by the hellacious spring in the knife it would go thru a vest…like a hot knife through butter! (But only at short distances)

 

[KellyinAvon]

Still can't buy a car from a car lot on Sundays...

Well we should fix that too.

Now wait just a minute. I like being able to go to a lot on a Sunday afternoon and NOT have the sales-sharks circling. Can't do that in Florida or Virginia.

 

[dieselrealtor]

Still can't buy a car from a car lot on Sundays...

What I was told a number of years ago when I was a service manager, this was because a lot of dealers wanted to be closed on Sundays but anti-trust laws prohibited it. There was a precedent in another state. So, they lobbied the legislatures to make it law. Same way in a number of other states.

Not sure if the story is true but it does seem plausible.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Now wait just a minute. I like being able to go to a lot on a Sunday afternoon and NOT have the sales-sharks circling. Can't do that in Florida or Virginia.

But lots of lots (see what I did there?) chain off their lot entries, so you have to park on the street, or halfway into their lot entrance. Then I always feel like I'm doing something I shouldn't be.

 

[KellyinAvon]

But lots of lots (see what I did there?) chain off their lot entries, so you have to park on the street, or halfway into their lot entrance. Then I always feel like I'm doing something I shouldn't be.

Not on the west side

 

[Ingomike]

Still can't buy a car from a car lot on Sundays...

And just why has this law not been repealed?

Because the dealers LOVE it. With the exception of border dealers that compete with near dealers in other states they can staff and run 6 days instead of 7. Today’s customer would also expect the full service department to be available, no putting it off to Monday.

It was the same with the Sunday liquor sales, it was the liquor stores themselves that held it back for so long.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Not on the west side

On West Washington, I think you'd find more than a few. You're WAY west side. Like out of the county west side.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

And just why has this law not been repealed?

Because the dealers LOVE it. With the exception of border dealers that compete with near dealers in other states they can staff and run 6 days instead of 7. Today’s customer would also expect the full service department to be available, no putting it off to Monday.

It was the same with the Sunday liquor sales, it was the liquor stores themselves that held it back for so long.

And like I said about the liquor stores, nobody is forcing them to stay open. They're free to close on Sundays.

I've noticed that some Chinese restaurants have weird "closed" days. Some are closed on Mondays, some on Tuesdays, etc. They're not forced to close on those days. They choose their own open/closed schedule.

 

[KellyinAvon]

On West Washington, I think you'd find more than a few. You're WAY west side. Like out of the county west side.

Only 4 miles west of Raceway. I guess that's WAY west of Meridian Street

 

[Ingomike]

And like I said about the liquor stores, nobody is forcing them to stay open. They're free to close on Sundays.

And I was telling you it was the liquor industry as a group that fought it. Meijer and Walmart are already open and staffed, but this was a big cost to liquor stores that do not have big budgets. Again, if the industry could do it in six days why be open seven? Nobody died because the liquor stores were closed on Sunday, or couldn’t buy a car for that matter…

 

[DoggyDaddy]

And I was telling you it was the liquor industry as a group that fought it. Meijer and Walmart are already open and staffed, but this was a big cost to liquor stores that do not have big budgets. Again, if the industry could do it in six days why be open seven? Nobody died because the liquor stores were closed on Sunday, or couldn’t buy a car for that matter…

What about other states that didn't have such restrictions? The liquor industry seems to have survived there. It was a non-issue that they made into an issue.

 

[Ingomike]

What about other states that didn't have such restrictions? The liquor industry seems to have survived there. It was a non-issue that they made into an issue.

And consumers likely paid for it too. Indiana has more reasonable pricing compared to most states I have purchased liquor in. Many states do not even have private liquor stores, liquor is purchased from state run stores. Beer and wine elsewhere.

Indiana liquor stores are mostly small business with a few exceptions of bigger chains in Indy.

Fun fact on a related note, when the state allowed drug stores to sell liquor, grocery stores still cannot, that is partly why every grocery has a pharmacy.

 

[BigMoose]

okay.. lol.. anyway Im going to write Lucas about the Ballistic Knives thing

 

[actaeon277]

 

[hopper68]