I'm done with the Republican Party.

[Shadow01]

What is your definition of "true conservative"?

We can start with the 22 holdouts in the house and work our way right from there. At minimum they must be in the freedom caucus

 

[Route 45]

What is your definition of "true conservative"?

That should probably be its own thread.

 

[Ingomike]

Not a fan of Haley. Paul/Gabbard 2024 would likely get my vote.

Why Gabbard? What has she done to deserve your vote?

 

[Ingomike]

We’ve compromised enough. Time for the party to make a hard shift right or just leave and have those true conservatives start a new party. Once the GOP is split, they will not be able to find a way to survive.

If your beliefs were even close to any kind of majority of even just the republican party there would be no need to compromise. How do you see this playing out that you split 22 to another party and they have any type of power. And don’t tell me that the republicans they left will come to them for support and they will have outsized power, it will not work that way long term.

I suspect if what you prepose happened there would be an alliance between republicans and democrats leaving conservatives farther out than they are now…

 

[Shadow01]

If your beliefs were even close to any kind of majority of even just the republican party there would be no need to compromise. How do you see this playing out that you split 22 to another party and they have any type of power. And don’t tell me that the republicans they left will come to them for support and they will have outsized power, it will not work that way long term.

I suspect if what you prepose happened there would be an alliance between republicans and democrats leaving conservatives farther out than they are now…

Sometimes it’s not about winning, but making someone else lose. Not every move needs to be a winning move. Let the GOP align themselves with the communists. They already are, just not with any official statements. As I said in pasts posts, this will not be turned around until the country hits bottom. The faster we hit bottom, the quicker we can start over.

 

[Ingomike]

Sometimes it’s not about winning, but making someone else lose. Not every move needs to be a winning move. Let the GOP align themselves with the communists. They already are, just not with any official statements. As I said in pasts posts, this will not be turned around until the country hits bottom. The faster we hit bottom, the quicker we can start over.

The start over, based on history, will not be in our lifetimes and could be several hundred years or more. There may never be another period of freedom like we have experienced…

 

[Shadow01]

The start over, based on history, will not be in our lifetimes and could be several hundred years or more. There may never be another period of freedom like we have experienced…

Is happening in our lifetime a requirement to do what is need? What ever that may be…

 

[Ingomike]

Is happening in our lifetime a requirement to do what is need? What ever that may be…

The difference is when will the masses of people decide it hit bottom. Clearly the masses are not there yet. So it is just you and a few that share the sentiment it has hit bottom.

This reminds me of those promoting climate change extreme actions while buying multi-million dollar ocean front property. Those saying saying it has hit bottom sure have not been acting like the greatest country for freedom ever in the world is going down or they would have done more that they have, either that or they have no idea the horrors of the crash will be…

 

[BugI02]

Starting to see parallels between sentiment towards the GOP and the NRA.

You mean like traitors need to be destroyed and then something better built from the ashes?

 

[BugI02]

What is your definition of "true conservative"?

Hard to tell without a kilt

 

[BugI02]

Why Gabbard? What has she done to deserve your vote?

Say what she thinks he wants to hear?

 

[foszoe]

Hard to tell without a kilt

I wear a kilt

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I wear a kilt

This is NOT a kilt.

 

[foszoe]

This is NOT a kilt.

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Oh I wear suspenders with mine

 

[Shadow01]

The difference is when will the masses of people decide it hit bottom. Clearly the masses are not there yet. So it is just you and a few that share the sentiment it has hit bottom.

This reminds me of those promoting climate change extreme actions while buying multi-million dollar ocean front property. Those saying saying it has hit bottom sure have not been acting like the greatest country for freedom ever in the world is going down or they would have done more that they have, either that or they have no idea the horrors of the crash will be…

It is not at the bottom yet, I’m tired of the decades long slow walk left. Lets get this thing to the bottom quickly so we can do what needs to be done. Flashing the VRAM of this nation will not be easy or pretty, but I’m sure the founding fathers felt similarly about dealing with England.

 

[two70]

And we wonder why things are they way they are.

It is amazing the lengths people will go to and the effort they will expend to justify doing nothing. Or the effort spent complaining of the results after doing nothing. Frequently much of that effort seems to be directed toward purity tests, tests which inevitably conclude no politician is "pure enough" to warrant any effort spent in support or all to often, even voting. We're quick to reject anyone that doesn't provide us everything we want, seemingly never considering that we're ultimately just rewarding and enabling those that want to take everything we have.

 

[DadSmith]

I don’t get this infatuation with Zelensky.

That's just stupidity. It has to be called out.
Email your representatives say no.

The United States of Idiocracy

 

[Twangbanger]

It is not at the bottom yet, I’m tired of the decades long slow walk left. Lets get this thing to the bottom quickly so we can do what needs to be done. Flashing the VRAM of this nation will not be easy or pretty, but I’m sure the founding fathers felt similarly about dealing with England.

When the VRAM gets flashed, what's your confidence the correct people will come out on top?

Put differently, what is George Soros doing right now? It looks to me like he's trying to "flash our VRAM." There are other giants of tech and finance of the same mind as him.

The extreme left dreams of this, too. But they obviously envision a few details differently, in terms of how it all goes down, whom it benefits, and who winds up controlling the outcome.

Given that both the Right and Left have their own special, proprietary versions of the VRAM-flash "flood story" - and both think it ultimately accrues to their benefit - it occurs to me they can't both be right. If the VRAM-flash occurs, I find it highly likely the giants of Finance and Tech will be right in the middle calling the shots.

If you think that process somehow results in returning the helm of the country to hard-working christian white males (or even black transgendered ones) with a traditional concept of liberty, I'd like to see your calculations on that.

 

[Shadow01]

When the VRAM gets flashed, what's your confidence the correct people will come out on top?

Put differently, what is George Soros doing right now? It looks to me like he's trying to "flash our VRAM." There are other giants of tech and finance of the same mind as him.

The extreme left dreams of this, too. But they obviously envision a few details differently, in terms of how it all goes down, whom it benefits, and who winds up controlling the outcome.

Given that both the Right and Left have their own special, proprietary versions of the VRAM-flash "flood story" - and both think it ultimately accrues to their benefit - it occurs to me they can't both be right. If the VRAM-flash occurs, I find it highly likely the giants of Finance and Tech will be right in the middle calling the shots.

If you think that process somehow results in returning the helm of the country to hard-working christian white males (or even black transgendered ones) with a traditional concept of liberty, I'd like to see your calculations on that.

I’ll put my faith in the side with more 2A toys. No one really knows what that outcome will be. I know the outcome of proceeding as we are and maintaining our “faith” in the current system and our above reproach voting system. All I’m reading here is the slow walk left is the safest and preferred future for “our children”. It is the “low risk” option…

 

[Prometheus]

Here is a crazy idea.... educate yourself and vote for the individual instead of the party. Seriously, put in some effort and be an educated voter.
Take some responsibility, put in some work.