What drills did you run this week and how did you do?

[cedartop]

We started a 3X5 drill of the month drill to try and get folks in to just test their skills. This month we call it “the devil’s challenge “ 6 rounds 6 seconds and 6 yards. We are going to see how fast you can do it and then if you do that 1 second splits how close to a one hole you can do it. The idea is also to run it cold.

Wasn’t happy with the low hit but it cut the card so it counted. This was with my S&W Model 15 Revolver and 158 SWC

That is a good time for a relatively small target. Holster or ready position?

 

[ECS686]

That is a good time for a relatively small target. Holster or ready position?

We decided to do ready position simply due to we have no idea of most folks skill level from holsters that come in. We are keeping it simple but May gravitate to a holster draw down the road.

We will be offering the drill every month and change it up a bit giving credit to anyones we use IE Spaulding, Vickers Hackathorn Givens etc

 

[Gabriel]

I taught all week, but didn't shoot a single round.

 

[cedartop]

I taught all week, but didn't shoot a single round.

A common complaint among full time instructors. No demo's though?

 

[gregkl]

Went back to the range today, only this time with my wife. We shot .22's. No real drills other than a 5555 drill.

Shot the plate rack. 22 won't move the dueling tree or Texas Star.

I even broke out my S&W617. I get a smile on my face when I am reminded how accurate that little revolver is.

Cleared the plate rack in 2.8 seconds with my 15-22. That's quick by my standards.

 

[Gabriel]

A common complaint among full time instructors. No demo's though?

None with live ammo.

 

[devildog70]

I've been running the Gamut Resolutions Warm-up daily, plus a couple slowfire B8s (25 yd line). Then I'm mixing in some 10x10x10, some Defoor Hat Drill, some Baer Solutions Standards, and Baer Solutions Warm-up, as well as some Dot Torture and some slowfire B8s at the 50. Those are all being shot in addition to the Gamut and B8s, alternating a couple of the other things every other day or so.

Also working in some additional 1-shot draws and 1-reload-1s.

My first shots of the day are always from 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100 on a half torso steel, followed by 5 shots on a 6-inch plate at 30 yards. Getting in about 250-300 rounds a day.

The current training cycle we are in is not conducive to livefire demos, but doing some cold demos on manipulation.

 

[cedartop]

I've been running the Gamut Resolutions Warm-up daily, plus a couple slowfire B8s (25 yd line). Then I'm mixing in some 10x10x10, some Defoor Hat Drill, some Baer Solutions Standards, and Baer Solutions Warm-up, as well as some Dot Torture and some slowfire B8s at the 50. Those are all being shot in addition to the Gamut and B8s, alternating a couple of the other things every other day or so.

Also working in some additional 1-shot draws and 1-reload-1s.

My first shots of the day are always from 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100 on a half torso steel, followed by 5 shots on a 6-inch plate at 30 yards. Getting in about 250-300 rounds a day.

The current training cycle we are in is not conducive to livefire demos, but doing some cold demos on manipulation.

Sounds great. Wish I had that ammo budget.

 

[cedartop]

Shot my 2 best guns today. The Walther Q5 SF (main match gun), and Staccato C2 (main carry gun when not in NPE). That required different sets of drills to some degree.

With the C2 I shot the BAER solutions Warm Up target 1. This is one of the best fundamental, covers a bit of everything, printable targets you will find IMHO. It is not easy from a trigger control/grip perspective with the 1 inch squares that require 1 handed shooting. Those dang squares are usually what keeps me from cleaning it. I cleaned it first time out from 3 yards, but have not been able to do it from 5. Not enough patience on that slow fire trigger control work. Went on to the Complete Combatant Trifecta drill after that and eked out a 4 second total Expert rank. That was followed with the Complete Combatant core 4 (D2, Bill, Failure, D2R2) which I did not do so well on. These were shot using my EDC gear of LAS AIWB under a t shirt.

With IDPA gear, complete with vest and the Q5 I started with Pannone mind games which I ran twice. I then went into a number of runs of Spauldings 9 in 9. Still trying to make that 9 seconds. This is a great drill for working on being ready to shoot when you finish movement and shooting faster while maintaining accuracy on a tight target. After this I ran the Wilson 5X5 a.k.a. the IDPA short classifier. I ran this in a Master time, but threw 2 shots high just out of the circle for an Expert score.

I am reminded when I do this that there is a lot of difference between matches and EDC. While there is certainly crossover, it is not as much as one might think. If you look at the Core 4 I mentioned, these are great defensive drills, but have very little bearing on a match where draws count for almost nothing. To me, ironically enough, the Spaulding 9 in 9 is a great match type drill, especially if you use barrels to shoot from.

 

[Robert Richardson]

Just this one, holes appeared right where I wanted them.

 

[gregkl]

My wife and I went to mostly check out a Taurus TX22 and when she goes I make it all about her so I don't do my usual drills.

We both ran Dot Torture. I was doing it to get more time behind my new trigger in my M&P. It is really nice. I did much better. I failed but I only had four rounds fall outside of the circles.

The TX22 is pretty nice. I'd like to try the M&P22 Compact since my primary guns are M&P's.

 

[cedartop]

What a dumpster fire. I decided to run the 99 Drill after talking about it up thread. It is more of a practice session than it is a drill and I am committing to run it at one of my 2 (normally) range sessions a week. It is about performance, not tactics.

Range: 7-15yd

Target: 4×6 card (advanced: 3×5 card)

Start position: holstered concealed, hands relaxed at sides

Rounds fired: 99

This was developed as a way to practice fundamentals (marksmanship at speed, draws, and reloads) with limited time and ammunition. Individual drills are shot multiple times to provide actual training benefit rather than just serving as a test of current skill level.

1. 7 yards, 2.5sec PAR: draw and shoot three (10 times, total 30 rounds)
2. 7 yards, 5.0sec PAR: draw, fire one, reload, fire two (10 times, total 30 rounds)
3. 10 yards, 3.5sec PAR: draw and shoot three (10 times, total 30 rounds)
4. 15 yards, 5.0sec PAR: draw and shoot three (3 times, total 9 rounds)

Either 4×6″ or 3×5″ cards can be used as targets. The 3×5 version is obviously significantly more difficult. All shots must be fired before the end of the PAR time; shots fired after the PAR count as misses.

By JodyH at Pistol-Forum

So my hardest part is the first stage. My draw is too slow and so are my splits. As the distance increases I have an easier time meeting par. I did decide to modify this drill by cutting back a bit on the slide lock reloads, and adding those rounds to reps at the 15 yard line. Since I don't want to show my target. (A 3X5 card), I will just leave some gun porn from the range.

 

[gregkl]

What a dumpster fire. I decided to run the 99 Drill after talking about it up thread. It is work of a practice session than it is a drill and I am committing to run it at one of my 2 (normally) range sessions a week. It is about performance, not tactics.

Range: 7-15yd

Target: 4×6 card (advanced: 3×5 card)

Start position: holstered concealed, hands relaxed at sides

Rounds fired: 99

This was developed as a way to practice fundamentals (marksmanship at speed, draws, and reloads) with limited time and ammunition. Individual drills are shot multiple times to provide actual training benefit rather than just serving as a test of current skill level.

1. 7 yards, 2.5sec PAR: draw and shoot three (10 times, total 30 rounds)
2. 7 yards, 5.0sec PAR: draw, fire one, reload, fire two (10 times, total 30 rounds)
3. 10 yards, 3.5sec PAR: draw and shoot three (10 times, total 30 rounds)
4. 15 yards, 5.0sec PAR: draw and shoot three (3 times, total 9 rounds)

Either 4×6″ or 3×5″ cards can be used as targets. The 3×5 version is obviously significantly more difficult. All shots must be fired before the end of the PAR time; shots fired after the PAR count as misses.

By JodyH at Pistol-Forum

So my hardest part is the first stage. My draw is too slow and so are my splits. As the distance increases I have an easier time meeting par. I did decide to modify this drill by cutting back a bit on the slide lock reloads, and adding those rounds to reps at the 15 yard line. Since I don't want to show my target. (A 3X5 card), I will just leave some gun porn from the range.

I like the looks of the drill, but I really shouldn't be adding more drills, lol.

But then again at 99 rounds, I could do this one drill and another that uses 50 rounds or so and be done.

 

[backtrail540]

I like the looks of the drill, but I really shouldn't be adding more drills, lol.

But then again at 99 rounds, I could do this one drill and another that uses 50 rounds or so and be done.

The 99 is great because you get so many reps that you get a chance to recognize issues and correct them throughout the rest of the strings. It is common for me to do poorly on the first few runs of a string then clean the later runs of that string as I recognize grip issues or trigger prep problems etc... and self correct. Like MVS said it's much more of a practice session than most drills, as you get enough reps to actually drill rather than just test yourself. It's a favorite for sure.

 

[gregkl]

The 99 is great because you get so many reps that you get a chance to recognize issues and correct them throughout the rest of the strings. It is common for me to do poorly on the first few runs of a string then clean the later runs of that string as I recognize grip issues or trigger prep problems etc... and self correct. Like MVS said it's much more of a practice session than most drills, as you get enough reps to actually drill rather than just test yourself. It's a favorite for sure.

I will try it next range session.

 

[ditcherman]

I will try it next range session.

Same.
I appreciate the explanation of the drill, and the reasoning behind it.

 

[gregkl]

As far as scoring the 99 Drill: Is it 1 point per hit? Anything outside of the box or past the par time is considered a miss so no points?

I'm trying to figure out scoring and make a spreadsheet to track the sessions.

 

[cedartop]

As far as scoring the 99 Drill: Is it 1 point per hit? Anything outside of the box or past the par time is considered a miss so no points?

I'm trying to figure out scoring and make a spreadsheet to track the sessions.

That is how I understand it.

 

[backtrail540]

As far as scoring the 99 Drill: Is it 1 point per hit? Anything outside of the box or past the par time is considered a miss so no points?

I'm trying to figure out scoring and make a spreadsheet to track the sessions.

That's my understanding. Points = the amount of hits under par. So a clean run in 2.6 on the first string would be 2 points. 2/3 in 2.3 on the same string would also be 2 points. Dropping the first shot and having 2.7 2/3 run would be 1 point, as your first was a miss and your last was OT. So on and so forth

 

[bloodandgutsmurphy]

I ran the Air Marshal qualification test with a Glock 19. I couldn't pass stage 4. 7 was pretty tough as well