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  • BehindBlueI's

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    Seems relevant, local jailers having a rough go as well:


    Who is rushing to sign up to be a jail guard? I feel for those guys, I think I'd have to be near starvation to take that job. One could wonder how much of these problems are legit, how much are on purpose for political posturing, and how much is just growing pains? I don't have the answers or the information to made an educated guess but my cynicism runs deep on the matter.
     

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    CRT, defund the police, BLM, bonding thugs back out onto the streets...all this blood is on the hands of liberals, and they don`t care.
    I firmly agree. I also feel that they (Progressives, Liberals, Socialists, etc) are hoping things continue to destabilize, so they can use the heavy hand of government to "clamp" down on pretty much any freedom they do not agree with. Funny thing is, the vast majority of these Liberals will not have a "seat at the table", like they think they will. Only the few at the top of the food chain will have those seats...problem is, one cannot convince the masses of these idiots, that they are being used as tools.
     

    KLB

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    Oh, by all means, let`s put MORE criminals back out onto the streets to continue their criminal careers. If they broke the law, and a Judge, and/or Jury found them guilty and applied the proper law and sentence, then they`re where the hell they ought to be. Consider for just a second that IF we actually have the largest prison population in the world, then it`s because we`re the most lawless and criminal populace in the world.
    You apparently misunderstand what I am saying. The proper law and sentence needs to be changes for these people. The way we are doing things is broken. Lock someone up for something like possession of marijuana is going to go along way towards moving that person further into crime, not further away from it. Give them a felony for it, and I would imagine there is a really high chance of them going that route.

    I think they should go more towards modifying community service. Make these people serve the community doing stuff rather than burning our money sitting in a prison learning to be a crook.

    The violent ones can get locked up.
     

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    Look at these two opposing stories:




    The congresswoman`s car is shot up, and "celebrities'" are gushing about what a virtuous woman she is and how great that she wasn`t hurt...and where are these same concerns and voices when our police officers are shot and killed. Targeted and ambushed. If these stories don`t tell you who the enemies of this nation are, nothing will.
     

    KLB

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    Are you FREAKING kidding me? :xmad:


    It's not the kid's fault,...

    ...it's the gun's fault. :n00b:
    Did you guys read the article? This guy didn't just walk up and shoot a cop. The gun discharged in a struggle and hit both the officer and the kid. Why shouldn't he be eligible for bail?


    “This individual chose to carry illegal guns twice,” Lynch said. “He chose to fight with and shoot a New York City police officer. There’s no reason to believe he won’t do the exact same thing when he’s out on the street tonight.”

    Williams allegedly shot a police officer who responded to reports of an unruly crowd at Lorillard Place near East 187th Street on January 18, according to the report. The teen would not remove his hands from his pockets and a struggle with police ensued. A gun Williams was holding discharged during the struggle, striking and wounding NYPD officer Kaseem Pennant and hitting the teenager in the groin.

    The shooting comes after Williams already had a gun possession arrest on his record from 2020 and was placed on probation as a juvenile in the case one month ago.

    Those horrible "illegal" guns.
     

    gregr

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    Did you guys read the article? This guy didn't just walk up and shoot a cop. The gun discharged in a struggle and hit both the officer and the kid. Why shouldn't he be eligible for bail?




    Those horrible "illegal" guns.
    He shouldn`t be eligible for bail because he shot an officer!
     

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    Did you guys read the article? This guy didn't just walk up and shoot a cop. The gun discharged in a struggle and hit both the officer and the kid. Why shouldn't he be eligible for bail?

    I'm sure someone who is carrying illegally and fights with the police is no danger to society at large. Probably just drop the whole thing and consider it lesson learned.
     

    BE Mike

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    Did you guys read the article? This guy didn't just walk up and shoot a cop. The gun discharged in a struggle and hit both the officer and the kid. Why shouldn't he be eligible for bail?




    Those horrible "illegal" guns.
    You are correct. He didn't just walk up and shoot a cop. He shot a cop while fighting with him. Teenage rapper with a gun. What is wrong with that!

    You want to let non-violent offenders out of prison? Who should we start with? Maybe cons like Bernie Madoff, who defrauded investors of tens of billions of dollars? Maybe that child molester, who didn't use violence, but simply lured his victims. How about that drug dealer who sold school kids drugs and actually gave them away at the beginning to get them hooked? Maybe that burglar who just broke down your door, while you were gone and stole what he could? The car thief who took your "baby" from the driveway? How about shoplifters, most are non-violent? How's that working out in California with their new laws?
     

    KLB

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    I'm sure someone who is carrying illegally and fights with the police is no danger to society at large. Probably just drop the whole thing and consider it lesson learned.
    Not what I said at all. Do we have any evidence he committed any other crimes? The way Lynch was going on, I would bet he would have mentioned if the kid had ever been picked up for anything else.

    Do kids in some of these neighborhoods feel the necessity of being able to defend themselves? I'm sure the police will be there to do so if he needs it.
     

    BE Mike

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    Not what I said at all. Do we have any evidence he committed any other crimes? The way Lynch was going on, I would bet he would have mentioned if the kid had ever been picked up for anything else.

    Do kids in some of these neighborhoods feel the necessity of being able to defend themselves? I'm sure the police will be there to do so if he needs it.
    Kids are not held to as high a standard as adults. The reason is that many (most) of them don't act as responsible adults. Fighting with the police is not something that a responsible adult does. Irresponsible and unsupervised kids shouldn't be carrying guns.
     

    KLB

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    You are correct. He didn't just walk up and shoot a cop. He shot a cop while fighting with him. Teenage rapper with a gun. What is wrong with that!

    You want to let non-violent offenders out of prison? Who should we start with? Maybe cons like Bernie Madoff, who defrauded investors of tens of billions of dollars? Maybe that child molester, who didn't use violence, but simply lured his victims. How about that drug dealer who sold school kids drugs and actually gave them away at the beginning to get them hooked? Maybe that burglar who just broke down your door, while you were gone and stole what he could? The car thief who took your "baby" from the driveway? How about shoplifters, most are non-violent? How's that working out in California with their new laws?
    There is a difference between not prosecuting and not locking up.

    We have a serious cultural issue going on here. It isn't going to be solved quickly or easily. I sure don't have a solution, but I know that what we have been doing, sending people to criminal college, isn't working.

    As for your list, I would have made Madoff work till his dying day, and most every penny would be given to those he stole from.

    For the others, there are lots of examples on both sides. Just blindly locking people up is not a solution to the problem. It is a good way to **** away a lot of money though.
     

    KLB

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    Kids are not held to as high a standard as adults. The reason is that many (most) of them don't act as responsible adults. Fighting with the police is not something that a responsible adult does. Irresponsible and unsupervised kids shouldn't be carrying guns.
    I don't disagree, but I also see the world is not that black and white.

    Do young black males think they can trust the police? Between the reality of issues there and the BLM nonsense over the past few years, hell no they don't. He already was arrested for having a gun once, and he is confronted while carrying again. He refused to take his hands out of his pockets. Do we think he attacked the officer?

    Maybe this kid is a stereotypical rapper with a gun. Maybe he is a kid finding some success that feels the need to protect himself in a world that would prey on that success. Where the truth lies is to be seen. Sadly though, if this kid wasn't already headed down the path of being a criminal, he probably will be now.
     
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