Indianapolis Redline. Beginning of a Cluster F%&*

[Vigilant]

I had to take College from 38th to 71st. In both trips, I saw combined a whole 2 busses and 1 person waiting at a stop. Couldnt see inside the busses to see how many people were inside. But I'd venture to guess they were pretty empty.

And LOTS of construction guys ripping up the rubber barrier, trenching where it was, and pouring a concrete barrier in its place. What a cluster.

Which is gonna work awesome with snowplows!

 

[Hawkeye]

Question: What is the reason for the barriers, rubber or concrete? Is it to keep cars out of a "Busses only lane" or what?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Which is gonna work awesome with snowplows!

I thought about that at first, but instead it will work better than the rubber because they can run the plows along either side and the plow will bounce off not shred it. They'll just have to make two more passes to get the whole street because they can only plow half the redline lane at a time.

Question: What is the reason for the barriers, rubber or concrete? Is it to keep cars out of a "Busses only lane" or what?

Yes. To discourage cars from running in that lane. The barrier is about 4" high and 10-12" wide and runs down the center of the lane. Big enough you can cross it SLOWLY if you must, but enough to keep cars out. Busses running the lane dont even know they are there because since its down the centerline, and the buses never need to change lanes.

What a boondoggle.

 

[Tactically Fat]

Question: What is the reason for the barriers, rubber or concrete? Is it to keep cars out of a "Busses only lane" or what?

Yes.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Wasn't there a "tunnel" of sorts that ran under the Washington St. bridge over the river, just west of Victory Field for awhile? I think they blocked it off somehow because the homeless were living in it.

Yep, they shut that down after the bums lit it on fire. Engineers had to check for weakened steel because the fire was so damn hot.

The bums had mattresses and all sorts of **** down there.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Yep, they shut that down after the bums lit it on fire. Engineers had to check for weakened steel because the fire was so damn hot.

The bums had mattresses and all sorts of **** down there.

Ah yeah, now it's coming back to me. I didn't think I was imagining it, but at my age, it's best to check with someone else!

 

[Hohn]

My favorite part is the federal grant. Grants in general seem to make dumb projects more palatable, after all its not our money being blown.

Right, but the equivalent waste-of-money project in some other area IS our money. As Bastiat said "gov't is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to life at the expense of everybody else."

 

[KMaC]

Did the engineers consider that placing buildings in the middle of the road might not be a good idea? Someone hit the bollards at 3 AM, flipped and totaled their car.
"Police say they don't think drugs or alcohol were involved." Wow! You couldn't see a building in the road?
This is at least the second person to run into a station in six months. The maintenance cost for this boondoggle is going to be very high.
https://fox59.com/2020/01/06/man-in...damaged-after-crash-on-indys-near-north-side/

 

[ATOMonkey]

Perhaps they fell asleep.

Regardless, I agree that putting buildings in the middle of the road is a bad idea.

Li ion batteries in the winter and sweltering summer is also a dumb idea.

This whole thing will end up just like Blue Indy in another 5 years or so.

 

[Vigilant]

I thought about that at first, but instead it will work better than the rubber because they can run the plows along either side and the plow will bounce off not shred it. They'll just have to make two more passes to get the whole street because they can only plow half the redline lane at a time.



Yes. To discourage cars from running in that lane. The barrier is about 4" high and 10-12" wide and runs down the center of the lane. Big enough you can cross it SLOWLY if you must, but enough to keep cars out. Busses running the lane dont even know they are there because since its down the centerline, and the buses never need to change lanes.

What a boondoggle.

Youve obviously never plowed snow!

 

[Vigilant]

Perhaps they fell asleep.

Regardless, I agree that putting buildings in the middle of the road is a bad idea.

Li ion batteries in the winter and sweltering summer is also a dumb idea.

This whole thing will end up just like Blue Indy in another 5 years or so.

Speaking of Blue Indy, since they’re ****canning all those cars, are they giving back the parking places, or have they figured out yet another way to **** business?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Speaking of Blue Indy, since they’re ****canning all those cars, are they giving back the parking places, or have they figured out yet another way to **** business?

Not only should they give back the parking spaces, but if any tax money was used to subsidize that failed venture, then the citizens should get a refund on their taxes.

 

[KMaC]

Not only should they give back the parking spaces, but if any tax money was used to subsidize that failed venture, then the citizens should get a refund on their taxes.

Government never gets any money back from a failed joint venture and yeah, we sunk $6M into that futureworld idea.


[FONT=&quot]Blue Indy must eventually turn profitable for the city to recoup the $6 million it invested to help launch the car-sharing service. The controversial deal came at the end of former Republican Mayor Greg Ballard’s administration, and spurred a lawsuit from the Marion County auditor, a Democrat, that was eventually dismissed.[/FONT]

 

[Leadeye]

The people who were supposed to make money on those deals have and will. It's how leadership works.

 

[KMaC]

Indygo continues to lose money, continues to increase budget and continues to ignore it's legal obligation to raise a 10% match.

It has spent $170M so far. It estimated ridership at 11,000/day in order to get funding. It had 8,200/day when it was FREE. It finished the year averaging 4,000/day.
$170M/4,000 riders= $42,000/rider. I've always said we should just buy every rider a car, a $42,000 nice car.

They received $55M from Marion Co tax so they were supposed to raise $5.5M matching funds. They raised $65,000.
Complete failure hasn't deterred the leadership, they increased the budget for next year to $117M.

Absurd incompetence doesn't come close to describing what's happening.
Purposeful fraud does. Designed to be too big to fail.


https://fox59.com/news/indygo-red-line-celebrates-troubled-first-birthday/

 

[Lilboog82]

Indygo continues to lose money, continues to increase budget and continues to ignore it's legal obligation to raise a 10% match.

It has spent $170M so far. It estimated ridership at 11,000/day in order to get funding. It had 8,200/day when it was FREE. It finished the year averaging 4,000/day.
$170M/4,000 riders= $42,000/rider. I've always said we should just buy every rider a car, a $42,000 nice car.

They received $55M from Marion Co tax so they were supposed to raise $5.5M matching funds. They raised $65,000.
Complete failure hasn't deterred the leadership, they increased the budget for next year to $117M.

Absurd incompetence doesn't come close to describing what's happening.
Purposeful fraud does. Designed to be too big to fail.


https://fox59.com/news/indygo-red-line-celebrates-troubled-first-birthday/

man, what a sh*t show! People who voted for this should be paying for this crap, not me.

how the hell can they justify an INCREASE in spending when they are obviously falling short on every metric? Stupid democrat logic, let’s throw more money at it, that should work.

 

[churchmouse]

man, what a sh*t show! People who voted for this should be paying for this crap, not me.

how the hell can they justify an INCREASE in spending when they are obviously falling short on every metric? Stupid democrat logic, let’s throw more money at it, that should work.

Palms are still being filled with silver my friend.

 

[Hohn]

The people who were supposed to make money on those deals have and will. It's how leadership works.

https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs

[video=youtube_share;rStL7niR7gs]https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs[/video]

 

[KMaC]

You're gonna have a mass(ive) transit system and you're gonna like it.
It helps the Democrat "to big to fail" plan when the new Sec of Transportation is a Greeny and from Indiana.
Pete say "Hell yeah we'll can put some covid money into that bottomless pit."
Hogsett is determined to get this thing so big that the taxpayer can't walk away from it. Another $12M is peanuts compared to what has already been invested, maybe pay for a few buses.
The existing tax of $100/Marion Co taxpayer will increase bigly once they get the Purple and Blue lines running and losing money every minute.

American Rescue Plan to fund city transit projects including IndyGo Purple Line

WASHINGTON – $250 million in federal funding allocations for transit infrastructure projects across the country was announced Friday by U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. The funding com…

fox59.com

 

[K_W]

The Redline has now been cut short... it will now no longer service Nora, it will be stopping at 66th st.

They say "there have been no complaints"... maybe because nobody rides it?

They're still moving forward with Blue, Purple, Burnt Umber, Chartreuse, and Gamboge lines though.