Live Feed, Patriots at the Capitol

[buckwacker]

More than likely because the president encouraging people to storm the Capitol probably didn’t sit right with them, and they finally had the out they’ve been wanting to use.

He didn't encourage anyone to "storm" the Capitol. Your hate has perverted your discernment, or is the mendaciousness purposeful?

 

[ChristianPatriot]

History tells us whether they’re right or wrong. Antifa thinks they’re right. They’re not as far as I’m concerned. Trumpers think they’re right. I kinda think they’re not. At least not completely right. Certainly not right enough to storm the capital building. But history will write about who was right.

Certainly not the thread for this type of discussion but....what? History is the only thing that determines right or wrong? There is no objective moral truth?

 

[Vigilant]

So can we know “protest” (read as: undocumented shop) in the streets because a citizen was deprived her due process and was summarily executed for trespassing?

 

[ChristianPatriot]

So can we know “protest” (read as: undocumented shop) in the streets because a citizen was deprived her due process and was summarily executed for trespassing?

I’m in!

 

[Hatin Since 87]

So can we know “protest” (read as: undocumented shop) in the streets because a citizen was deprived her due process and was summarily executed for trespassing?

No. They shoot us.

 

[Chewie]

History tells us whether they’re right or wrong. Antifa thinks they’re right. They’re not as far as I’m concerned. Trumpers think they’re right. I kinda think they’re not. At least not completely right. Certainly not right enough to storm the capital building. But history will write about who was right.

Depends on who writes the history and how it is presented.

Sincerely,
Ever Skeptical

 

[Kutnupe14]

Cool story, bro. Now do the proof that the US is systematically racist

I don’t recall race being a factor in this discussion. So you must have incorrectly placed your post in this thread.

 

[Vigilant]

Depends on who writes the history and how it is presented.

Sincerely,
Ever Skeptical

Doesn’t matter who writes it, nor what they write. If, in a few years, someone get the feelz, they will rewrite it to serve the status quo.


Sincerely,
Ever Skeptical(for now)

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I don’t recall race being a factor in this discussion. So you must have incorrectly placed your post in this thread.

Wait. Didn’t you say a meme was racist literally 2 pages back?

LMFAO seriously, you can’t make this up

 

[Chewie]

Doesn’t matter who writes it, nor what they write. If, in a few years, someone get the feelz, they will rewrite it to serve the status quo.

100% truth!

 

[Vigilant]

Wait. Didn’t you say a meme was racist literally 2 pages back?

LMFAO seriously, you can’t make this up

Ummm...(picture of Morgan Freeman and the “He’s right you know” meme)

 

[Hatin Since 87]

No latent racism in that pic at all. Not a bit.

Here it is.

LMAO sheesh.

 

[buckwacker]

History tells us whether they’re right or wrong. Antifa thinks they’re right. They’re not as far as I’m concerned. Trumpers think they’re right. I kinda think they’re not. At least not completely right. Certainly not right enough to storm the capital building. But history will write about who was right.

Actions must be measured against a moral standard to make them justified. It doesn't matter if antifa thinks theyre right if their actions aren't justified under that standard. They are wrong because we live under a moral standard that says they are. That same standard says that the founders were justified in wresting their freedom from the king a placing it on our individual hands. We are not as free as we were and it's not going back on its own. Conceivably, the people will be morally justified to take the steps the founders did if we continue on this path at some point. Hell, Jefferson said we would have to. The argument comes in where we draw the line. I think this is where the varied responses to the events of today originate. Everyone's line is different.

 

[Drail]

There is the United States Constitution. And then there is all of that other crap... The District of Columbia needs a Deep Cleaning. I mean a SERIOUS DEEP Cleaning. Make every single politician give up their pay for a year and give it to the American people. And smile when they agree to that. Our Government must be shrunk back to the size it was when it started. It has become a monkey on our backs and if we don't get it off it may kill us all. We do not need HUGE MASSIVE Government and filthy rich politicians like Pelosi.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Actions must be measured against a moral standard to make them justified. It doesn't matter if antifa thinks theyre right if their actions aren't justified under that standard. They are wrong because we live under a moral standard that says they are. That same standard says that the founders were justified in wresting their freedom from the king a placing it on our individual hands. We are not as free as we were and it's not going back on its own. Conceivably, the people will be morally justified to take the steps the founders did if we continue on this path at some point. Hell, Jefferson said we would have to. The argument comes in where we draw the line. I think this is where the varied responses to the events of today originate. Everyone's line is different.

Historically, the line was when the continents declared independence and the Brits declared war, that’s when we fought. Or when the south wanted secession, and the north said no, we fought. So maybe it would come to that if no peaceable secession was possible. I’m on the side of “I pray it never comes to fighting”.

 

[buckwacker]

I don’t recall race being a factor in this discussion. So you must have incorrectly placed your post in this thread.

Really? YOU'RE the one who brought race into the discussion. Did you hit your head very hard today?

 

[churchmouse]

Really? YOU'RE the one who brought race into the discussion. Did you hit your head very hard today?

Come on people leave it go. Did my in thread not take a hold up thread.
Let it go and move on.

 

[Hohn]

The biggest mistake will be to dismiss this as just a protest that got out of hand, rather than to recognize that people have finally been pushed too far.

Why, these poor folk were compelled to drive far from home and break into Congress and demand it fix a problem it didn’t create and has no responsibility for.

Where were they in AZ? GA? PA?

 

[buckwacker]

Come on people leave it go. Did my in thread not take a hold up thread.
Let it go and move on.

Yessir, duly noted.

 

[Tombs]

There is the United States Constitution. And then there is all of that other crap... The District of Columbia needs a Deep Cleaning. I mean a SERIOUS DEEP Cleaning. Make every single politician give up their pay for a year and give it to the American people. And smile when they agree to that. Our Government must be shrunk back to the size it was when it started. It has become a monkey on our backs and if we don't get it off it may kill us all. We do not need HUGE MASSIVE Government.

Best solution is still for every state to leave the union and leave DC completely impotent.

Then when we decide we need some federal level organization again, we can use the constitution's framework to re-establish it.

This is not a system that can be cleaned out anymore. It must be completely done away with and rebuilt from the foundation up with the lessons learned along the way.