OK. Let me just say that none of this crap and I mean none of it has a single positive to offer your overall health. If it is time to stop something then just freaking stop.
Get pissy with me if you wish but seriously, it aint that freaking hard to do. Personal experiences. Observed many who just put down a lot of serious habits and walked. Better off for it.
The Vap industry does not want you to stop. You are a dedicated and "HOOKED" costumer. See the light. Find a hobby. Live longer. Please.
Flame suit is on. I am ready but I have heard it all so
Nothing but truth here. Even though I have struggled with smoking for about 22 years, I just cannot seem to quit for long term. I have quit drinking (except for an occasional beer) and I have quit caffeine. Dammit can I not have just have one bad habit
OK. Let me just say that none of this crap and I mean none of it has a single positive to offer your overall health. If it is time to stop something then just freaking stop.
Get pissy with me if you wish but seriously, it aint that freaking hard to do. Personal experiences. Observed many who just put down a lot of serious habits and walked. Better off for it.
The Vap industry does not want you to stop. You are a dedicated and "HOOKED" costumer. See the light. Find a hobby. Live longer. Please.
Flame suit is on. I am ready but I have heard it all so
I'm glad I gave it up. 44 yrs is enough.Oh you can have as many as you can stand my friend. I have ran the course in my life just never ever picked up a Cigarette. Saw no joy in such a nasty habit. I did smoke a lot of that other stuff but the age of Aquarius and all that. Decided one day it was not for me anymore and walked. Same with drinking and brother I could and did drink. It became hurtful so nope, no more. Just water now and the occasional sprite with some really good home made
I see myself as a rechargeable battery. Take in food etc. Make stored energy with it and dump the waste. Adding crap to that mix just slows me down. And believe me I have added my share and yours of crap to that mix.
Not trying to preach. Just sharing what I have done and seen. The spouse (CKW) smoked for years. One day she said "Honey, you might be rght on this".........
She just stopped smoking. Done. That was 10 years ago. She is far the better for it.
You all do as you need. That is up to you.
Interesting! Even the tobacco industry says it does increase your oral cancer risk... Or is your contention that they're forced to say so as a CYA measure?There are a lot of politics and corp. money to be made around the subject of vaping complicated by it being new so any science that is out there is by definition not based on long term studies. Politicians see a big revenue source to regulate (see big money - sell the need for regulation - now big money needs to support you so regulation goes your way, Gov. 101. No different than anything else) All that to say people are getting messages from healthcare providers, Gov., companies, and even organizations like WHO and they all have their motivations to skew the message. It does't help that the media is.. well, the media so hearing anything from them doesn't help you critically evaluate the information because who knows where they heard it and how they messed up the actual information before putting their spin on it.
The "safer" sales angle was based on the concept that tobacco has to be heated/burned to produce the carcinogens. A vape mechanism doesn't heat it nearly as much as burning the tobacco like a cig. On that front it IS safer than smoking. That is also why chewing tobacco/snuff/chew has zero connection to oral cancer*.
We don't anticipate seeing any of the same cancers that we see with smoking and if we see any it will likely (like it is with smoking) take years for results. So on the cancer front, it's like the early years of smoking... you'll have several years of large populations vaping before you'll be able to attribute any particular types of cancer with vaping.
Cancer is only one aspect of risk/damage/safety though!
With vaping the issue is going to be the particle size and possibly what the particle is. What you inhale is technically an aerosol. They are seeing chronic irritations to lung tissue from vaping. The current thought is that instead of finding out years later vaping causes lung cancer (like the history of smoking) we are probably going to see problems like COPD and other lung issues. This is NOT good. There are lung issues that used to be classified as COPD that we now know are their own separate condition and once discovered you are going to die from it. It will take 1-10 years but there is no treatment for it.
Example of motivation causing the message to veer from simple facts: WHO (world health organization) is on a campaign against nicotine addiction. Details matter, they call it that because it includes smoking, chewing, and vaping. Their information discusses all the risks as if they are the same. They are NOT. It is a little disingenuous in my opinion. If you group these all together you can come up with a nice list of health issues but not all of the issues come with all the delivery systems.
*Yes I'm a dentist and I'm telling you chewing tobacco does not increase your chances of oral cancer... destroys teeth and gums... but not a cancer risk.
Interesting! Even the tobacco industry says it does increase your oral cancer risk... Or is your contention that they're forced to say so as a CYA measure?
That is also why chewing tobacco/snuff/chew has zero connection to oral cancer*.
*Yes I'm a dentist and I'm telling you chewing tobacco does not increase your chances of oral cancer... destroys teeth and gums... but not a cancer risk.
With all due respect, I know doctors that would disagree.