The Libertarian Party Race is Filling Up?

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  • steveh_131

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    The regular use of terms like 'RINO' here on INGO suggests to me that you guys are being purposely obtuse about this discussion.

    If your policies are consistently backed by the pursuit of individual liberty then you are a libertarian. If they are not then you are not.

    It's really not that complicated.
     

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    Could it be that when a libertarian runs for political office, under whatever Party header, they might just be willing to fill a spot normally reserved to those who think they should rule others?

    How could they possibly convince America that they'd rule better than the others when they have no underlying desire or intention to rule at all?

    Hmm...
     

    foszoe

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    Could it be that when a libertarian runs for political office, under whatever Party header, they might just be willing to fill a spot normally reserved to those who think they should rule others?

    How could they possibly convince America that they'd rule better than the others when they have no underlying desire or intention to rule at all?

    Hmm...

    Could be. Would they be honest enough to say so if that's the case? Any examples?

    How could they? Any examples?
     

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    Could be. Would they be honest enough to say so if that's the case? Any examples?

    How could they? Any examples?

    It's not dishonest to run as a Republican but campaign with libertarian ideals.

    Again, Ron Paul. Republican. Every decision backed by the constitution and the pursuit of individual liberty,
     

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    Johnson has the better idea, he's just not the right man to carry it forward. Libertarians should run as such at the statewide level and form a caucus in congress should enough be elected. I think the best way to advance Libertarian ideas is by being a needed voting block whose ideas need to be accommodated in legislation

    I don't see people turning the whole country over to them anytime soon. I wonder if it's just tilting at windmills, financial in trying to hit the threshold for matching funds or a desire to play spoiler

    The only thing it can't be is a clear eyed, realistic assessment of their chances
     

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    I think the best way to advance Libertarian ideas is by being a needed voting block whose ideas need to be accommodated in legislation
    I would think so too. But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a coherent philosophy within the ranks of the LP. Being a regular reader of Reason's FB feed, their readers are all over the place. You have hard core socialists that think they are libertarian because they are pro gay and pro dope. Then you have conservatives that are anti gay and anti dope but think they are libertarian because they believe in shrinking government.

    ETA: I felt I should clarify that I consider myself a conservative with some libertarian leanings. I am not holding myself out as a sufficiently pure libertarian a la MrJ.
     
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    Yeah, they need to tighten up the ground rules. I don't think running a national [STRIKE]pandering[/STRIKE] presidential race is the way forward
     

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    I would think so too. But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a coherent philosophy within the ranks of the LP. Being a regular reader of Reason's FB feed, their readers are all over the place. You have hard core socialists that think they are libertarian because they are pro gay and pro dope. Then you have conservatives that are anti gay and anti dope but think they are libertarian because they believe in shrinking government.

    ETA: I felt I should clarify that I consider myself a conservative with some libertarian leanings. I am not holding myself out as a sufficiently pure libertarian a la MrJ.

    This explains the Johnson/Weld campaign efforts to be the alternate home to Bernie's supporters. Problem is, the Bernie supporters want free stuff and the larger government required to coerce it.

    If only there was a libertarian party that was more in the mold of people like Austen Peterson rather than Johnson/Weld. What a laughing stock.
     

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    Johnson has the better idea, he's just not the right man to carry it forward. Libertarians should run as such at the statewide level and form a caucus in congress should enough be elected.

    Running for Senate is a statewide race, and Johnson is obviously popular there. It actually seems like it has real potential and could give libertarians a boost. The larger problem is that if he runs probably both of the other parties will pour money into the race to prevent a third party from a win like that.
     

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    This explains the Johnson/Weld campaign efforts to be the alternate home to Bernie's supporters. Problem is, the Bernie supporters want free stuff and the larger government required to coerce it.

    If only there was a libertarian party that was more in the mold of people like Austen Peterson rather than Johnson/Weld. What a laughing stock.

    Peterson is probably closer to your views, which is to say Republican. He put quite the emphasis on being pro-life. Libertarians vary greatly in their abortion views but using a pro-life stance is a Republican view. For example, Ron Paul doesn't favor abortion but he also doesn't think that outlawing it ever helped anything.
     

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    Peterson is probably closer to your views, which is to say Republican. He put quite the emphasis on being pro-life. Libertarians vary greatly in their abortion views but using a pro-life stance is a Republican view. For example, Ron Paul doesn't favor abortion but he also doesn't think that outlawing it ever helped anything.

    Actually, I believe I remember Peterson supporting the overturning of Roe so that the question could be returned to the states where it belongs. Once there, I would support the outlawing of murder because you can't have liberty without life.
     
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