right b4 you put an upper on it that is less than 16" and you have a stock attached to the lower
It could be painful to find out for certain, as it usually means a conviction for doing it wrong.There's some debate now on this issue. Some lawyers are even saying that there is no specific timeline requirement. I have no idea but it would be interesting to find out for certain. I've always had mine done before the stamp
There's some debate now on this issue. Some lawyers are even saying that there is no specific timeline requirement. I have no idea but it would be interesting to find out for certain. I've always had mine done before the stamp
When Do I Have to Engrave my Form 1 SBR?
Anytime before someone from the ATF sees it.
Best answer! Well done sir!Anytime before someone from the ATF sees it.
So before it gets posted on ingo?
Run that by the ATF. Do you have a midget license?Right.... and if I cut both my legs off at the knee, I didn't "manufacture a midget".
This long winded answer is coming from me, an LEO here in NWI that deals with and has buddies in the ATF branch both in Merrillville and Chicago:
People get caught up in the verbiage of "commerce" in the ruling as to imply only if your'e selling and tend to forget or read how they want the surrounding word "manufacturer". Regardless of sales, YOU are the manufacturer of the SBR and by definition are required to engrave at minimum name, city, state.
I'm not here to debate that stance. I know a lot of "internet keyboard commando lawyers" will say this that or the other to the contrary, that's fine, I don't care.
To my point, you have too many people in a position of authority with the ability to interpret this in a manner that may affect you without very much guidance and direction.
With that said, you are completely safe from any type of ramifications by just getting it engraved. This is the only sure fire way to not have to deal with any potential BS.
This is about the time the "internet keyboard commando lawyers" say, I'll sue, I'll this, blah blah blah." Go ahead, if you win great, if you don't whatever. Think of the time and money "wasted" on your vindication. I for one am not looking to be a martyr for this cause, my time and money is worth more to me with my family than in court or jail.
My interpretation of it, as a LEO, is that it needs to be engraved. All it takes is the wrong situation, with the wrong people mixed with their interpretation to be the beginning to the end. We spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year on insurance that prevents us from minor fines if we are caught without it. Think of the engraving as a one time $50 insurance policy that keeps you out of the federal courts. To me that alone is worth the cost.
Again, I'm not trying to start a debate on this. People are free to interpret and decide on their own. All I'm saying is WITH the engraving you err on the side of caution that NO ONE CAN QUESTION.
Honest question, would you pay more, or less, for a SBR engraved with my information?SBR or not, I can't see what is wrong with having any of your guns engraved with your name and hometown.