Count me as one who doesn't get the CZ fascination. Nothing against them, they just don't do anything special for me. I am probably not good enough to appreciate whatever it is they offer.
So, if I understand the thread correctly, the best 9mm handgun is the:
HKVP9G19G17M&P9FS9cP226P228CZ75BHiPower1911P210P2075ShadowP320FNS9c92fsM9P07P07P7M8P2000sk6906/3913ShieldG43941XD5906/3906HiPointSP01940SR9.
Thanks for clearing that up. I have to see if my local shop has one.
Great for discussion but I really can't possibly see there ever being one right answer to this for everybody. Too many factors which make it impossible for everybody to agree.
...For me a plastic gun would never be the right answer. It's not only because of aesthetics and lack of craftsmanship...
While I completely understand your intent, I suspect the mold makers would strongly disagree with the idea of "lack of craftsmanship". Simply put, the craftsmanship is in the mold making rather than the machining of the frame.
Great for discussion but I really can't possibly see there ever being one right answer to this for everybody. Too many factors which make it impossible for everybody to agree.
For me a plastic gun would never be the right answer. It's not only because of aesthetics and lack of craftsmanship, but because of felt recoil. Besides not being a fan of being beaten to death it's a matter of my hands and my arthritis which means after enough time at the range and my hands will hurt more firing something where I feel more recoil.
I currently only have ten handguns however my experience and the time I've spent with them is fairly limited. However three of these are 22s and the rest are 9mms. Of the 9mms the Sig P226 and Dan Wesson 1911 V-Bob are my favorite to shoot. I also have a 92FS but I find the P226 Tacops simply feels better in my hand, shoots easier, and I feel less recoil. Overall it's a larger handgun. After only three range trips I would have to lean towards the Sig P226. The 1911 is a thrill to shoot but my hands feel better after shooting the P226.
Heck I feel better after shooting my Ruger GP 100 22 because there's absolutely no felt recoil. So in a way that's my favorite gun at this point.
You have experience with a lot of heavy steel framed pistols, that is great... wear one on your belt everyday and you'll see the true value of a polymer framed pistol. I have an STI 5" 9mm 1911, and your right there is zero recoil. I've had a 229 and the felt recoil is almost directly comparable with my fn509(current favorite poly). I am also really starting to enjoy my glock 34 and the felt recoil on the gen 4's is next to nothing. Now if I limp wrist the polymer pistols they will beat me up, but a proper grip all but eliminates felt recoil in my full size polymer 9mm's. The extra weight and my excessive sweat keep me selling my metal frame pistols after a trip or two to the range. I like how the 509's polymer frame allows for deep and unique stippling that keep my contact points dry and my grip consistent from dry to sweaty. You just cant do that with a metal frame. I love all guns, I just don't see the need to let my nostalgia get in the way of practicality and usefulness.
There's nothing wrong with the stock guns either.Not good enough? Yeah, that's a good one. Anyway, I would love to introduce you to some of our custom jobs. They are different animals from the stock guns.
Recoil in a 9mm
And I know there is a best one out there... I think I am just one more away from finding it... You just can't give up so easily.
You have experience with a lot of heavy steel framed pistols, that is great... wear one on your belt everyday and you'll see the true value of a polymer framed pistol. I have an STI 5" 9mm 1911, and your right there is zero recoil. I've had a 229 and the felt recoil is almost directly comparable with my fn509(current favorite poly). I am also really starting to enjoy my glock 34 and the felt recoil on the gen 4's is next to nothing. Now if I limp wrist the polymer pistols they will beat me up, but a proper grip all but eliminates felt recoil in my full size polymer 9mm's. The extra weight and my excessive sweat keep me selling my metal frame pistols after a trip or two to the range. I like how the 509's polymer frame allows for deep and unique stippling that keep my contact points dry and my grip consistent from dry to sweaty. You just cant do that with a metal frame. I love all guns, I just don't see the need to let my nostalgia get in the way of practicality and usefulness.
I'm sticking with my P320 so far...but I am still looking. Just trying to figure out if my flurry of purchase activity has me on a watch list.