Poll:who would you vote for right now

[BugI02]

You didn't mention taxing remittances back to the home country for wall funding

 

[Que]

Honest question if you're Latinos and Latinas in this country legally, gainfully employed, and not planning on having other family members enter illegally - what part of Trump's positions would impact you in any way

The fact is, the American citizen you described is not seen as such by Trump, which was proven by the statements he made about the judge. It's not even about family members who happen to live in Mexico, but the fact that Trump sees them all as either immirants or illegals. He envisions people like the judge behind the wall he wants to build. If you were born in Indiana and happen to be of Mexican descent, would this bother you? Would you support Trump?

 

[churchmouse]

Any of your friends, family, neighbors who are here illegally would be arrested and deported. That'd be an impact.

Well yeah.....sort of. They are here illegally so some impact should come from that.

Question.....what would you do about this situation.
I have given it a fair amount of thought and it is a very complex issue.
Again....what would you do.

 

[Tombs]

Honest question why should any person of Latino origin vote for Trump, when even the American born, educated, and successful Latinos are labeled as Mexicans, and labeled as holding their opinions solely based on ethnic heritage rather than honest political beliefs (right or wrong)?

Because if you, your parents, or your grandparents immigrated here legally, watching the freeloaders force their way across the border and take everything you(they) fought for is INSULTING.

Any of your friends, family, neighbors who are here illegally would be arrested and deported. That'd be an impact.

Who cares what criminals think.

 

[Jludo]

Well yeah.....sort of. They are here illegally so some impact should come from that.

Question.....what would you do about this situation.
I have given it a fair amount of thought and it is a very complex issue.
Again....what would you do.

I'm with Rand Paul on this one, legal status, work permits, they get in line behind those already waiting for citizenship expand legal immigration from Latin American countries. Make it easier to come legally, lesson the draw to immigrate illegally, lesson the burden on boarder control.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Because if you, your parents, or your grandparents immigrated here legally, watching the freeloaders force their way across the border and take everything you(they) fought for is INSULTING.



Who cares what criminals think.

Prior to Trump, that would be a solid opinion. Question nailed it, Trump apparently doesn't see the difference.

 

[printcraft]

Any of your friends, family, neighbors who are here illegally would be arrested and deported. That'd be an impact.

 

[BugI02]

Prior to Trump, that would be a solid opinion. Question nailed it, Trump apparently doesn't see the difference.

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[The Bubba Effect]

Trump talks like the greasiest of the slimy real estate people I used to deal with. The tone of voice, the platitudes, the whole thing. Commercial real estate is as dirty as it gets and I cannot imagine what it is like on the coasts. He's a slimeball, says anything to get short term gains. I cannot believe there are people who do not see through it.

To be quite absolutely honest, I figure his whole campaign is an effort to make sure Hillary gets elected. He has the party nomination, now he will ratchet up the nonsense until there is no danger of him winning.

Trump is a shyster.

 

[Sylvain]

Trump talks like the greasiest of the slimy real estate people I used to deal with. The tone of voice, the platitudes, the whole thing. Commercial real estate is as dirty as it gets and I cannot imagine what it is like on the coasts. He's a slimeball, says anything to get short term gains. I cannot believe there are people who do not see through it.

To be quite absolutely honest, I figure his whole campaign is an effort to make sure Hillary gets elected. He has the party nomination, now he will ratchet up the nonsense until there is no danger of him winning.

Trump is a shyster.

Are you saying Trump is actually working for Hillary?

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Are you saying Trump is actually working for Hillary?

I would not expect to know if he was, but if I had to put money on yes or no, I would put my money on yes. I do not like her, I do not want her to be president, I would be tickled pink if she were hauled off in chains spitting and foaming at the mouth on live television. That said, she is the real deal, a power broker. He is a muppet from reality television.

If there is anyone in the world who can guarantee that Hillary becomes president, it is Donald Trump.

 

[Sylvain]

I would not expect to know if he was, but if I had to put money on yes or no, I would put my money on yes. I do not like her, I do not want her to be president, I would be tickled pink if she were hauled off in chains spitting and foaming at the mouth on live television. That said, she is the real deal, a power broker. He is a muppet from reality television.

If there is anyone in the world who can guarantee that Hillary becomes president, it is Donald Trump.

If it's the case what would he do if he's elected president? Take Hillary as is VP?

Now that would be a plot twist.

 

[BugI02]

The fact is, the American citizen you described is not seen as such by Trump, which was proven by the statements he made about the judge. It's not even about family members who happen to live in Mexico, but the fact that Trump sees them all as either immirants or illegals. He envisions people like the judge behind the wall he wants to build. If you were born in Indiana and happen to be of Mexican descent, would this bother you? Would you support Trump?

The real, non-glib answer is maybe. If I was still ME (as I exist today) just clothed in a different body but still feeling like I do about hard work, responsibility and respectability. I couldn't say that my friends or family would accept that decision but I'm already the only Trump supporter in my immediate family and half my friends are Democrats.

As far as the reflexive judgements made about me, there are a great many assumptions already made about me due to the (lack of) color of my skin and there are places in the country where I have friends where I'm still judged by what side my ancestors fought on in a war 145 yrs ago - where I'll always be a 'yankee'

Not that I conflate how harsh those judgements of me are with what they would be like if I was Latino or black. Just sayin' I'm not immune from being pre-judged even now. So it's an interesting question but one that is hard to imagine unless I am still myself at the time I choose who to vote for

And I would like to raise the point again that anyone who thinks being a federal judge, or even a judge of the SCOTUS, frees someone from their prejudices is naive. Only judge Curiel knows if he has been completely even handed in the Trump U case but I can conceive of the possibility that he has not been.

Most people that believe as Trump does while facing a judge would not go the route Trump has simply because it is a low percentage move. Do you think the people with the land dispute at the heart of the Oregon sanctuary take over believe in an unbiased judiciary?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Interesting the opinions coming out of this election on Reddit

Some upset Bernie supporters say they should just vote for Trump to assist in "Berning" it all to the ground... one even mentioning they want to get the inevitable "civil war" over with. Which is cute. "I don't like the candidates, so I'm going to whine and set the world on fire." Very liberal thinking.

Other liberals describe Clinton as a "more right-wing version of Obama." I guess that's all a matter of perspective. She's probably to the right of Obama on some issues... just because she doesn't care.

Others say they expect Bernie supporters to go with Trump because it'll hurt the Republican party so bad, that Democrats will likely win for a decade when he's out. That's about in line with what I think.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

Trump

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[Que]

The real, non-glib answer is maybe. If I was still ME (as I exist today) just clothed in a different body but still feeling like I do about hard work, responsibility and respectability. I couldn't say that my friends or family would accept that decision but I'm already the only Trump supporter in my immediate family and half my friends are Democrats.

As far as the reflexive judgements made about me, there are a great many assumptions already made about me due to the (lack of) color of my skin and there are places in the country where I have friends where I'm still judged by what side my ancestors fought on in a war 145 yrs ago - where I'll always be a 'yankee'

Not that I conflate how harsh those judgements of me are with what they would be like if I was Latino or black. Just sayin' I'm not immune from being pre-judged even now. So it's an interesting question but one that is hard to imagine unless I am still myself at the time I choose who to vote for

And I would like to raise the point again that anyone who thinks being a federal judge, or even a judge of the SCOTUS, frees someone from their prejudices is naive. Only judge Curiel knows if he has been completely even handed in the Trump U case but I can conceive of the possibility that he has not been.

Most people that believe as Trump does while facing a judge would not go the route Trump has simply because it is a low percentage move. Do you think the people with the land dispute at the heart of the Oregon sanctuary take over believe in an unbiased judiciary?

Both Trump and the judge, like all of us, possess biases. However, Trump is the only one who is making his known to the world, but you can only acknowledge those that may exist with the judge? It doesn't matter if Trump's case isn't going how he wants. He is contending to be the President of the United States and he attacks a U.S. citizen by saying he's afraid of the wall he's building? This is a man who was born here and worked his butt off to achieve his goals and Trump has the audacity to frame his judicial and legal acumen on the fact that he's of Mexican descent. If that's the case, maybe, just maybe, Trump is doing the same thing as a White man with his rhetoric to "Make America Great Again!" Could this be?

 

[Jludo]

Are you saying Trump is actually working for Hillary?

Better question, Trump has stated Hilary was terrific, would make a great president, that he likes her very much.

Now was Trump lying to us before or after he became a politician?

 

[AmmoManAaron]

To be quite absolutely honest, I figure his whole campaign is an effort to make sure Hillary gets elected. He has the party nomination, now he will ratchet up the nonsense until there is no danger of him winning.

I said upthread that I would hold my nose and vote for Trump, but this is a VERY real concern of mine...even if it does sound a bit tinfoil. Of course, considering the things Bill and Hillary have actually done and gotten away with, perhaps a bit of tinfoil is warranted.

If it's the case what would he do if he's elected president? Take Hillary as is VP?

Now that would be a plot twist.

That right there is the million $ question. It would truly make things go sideways if he did give Hillary the VP or some other high-powered role. I mean, it would literally be an admission that the whole system has been gamed. I think Civil War II would kick off immediately.

 

[BugI02]

Well, when asked about a third party, some wags have said they'd like a second one first

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Some upset Bernie supporters say they should just vote for Trump to assist in "Berning" it all to the ground... one even mentioning they want to get the inevitable "civil war" over with. Which is cute. "I don't like the candidates, so I'm going to whine and set the world on fire." Very liberal thinking.

If you typed that with a straight face, it must be your first day on a gun forum.