Man Exercising his 'Open Carry' Right Robbed of Gun he was Carrying

[bwframe]

You got links on CCers robbed?
The one's robbed because their gun was seen and targeted?

Robbed is robbed.
If someone wants your wallet, and gets a gun with a wallet, then they STILL GET THE GUN.

It doesn't matter to me whether you back up your point or not.
I was afraid it was really just how your felt about it, rather than fact.

 

[actaeon277]

It doesn't matter to me whether you back up your point or not.
I was afraid it was really just how your felt about it, rather than fact.

Sorry, I thought you knew how to use a search engine.
Man robbed with own handgun in Minneapolis mugging - KMSP-TV

 

[actaeon277]

Concealed carry is not invisible carry

How to Spot Someone Carrying a Concealed Handgun

How to Spot a Concealed Firearm - Article - POLICE Magazine

How to spot a concealed handgun | Buckeye Firearms Association

How to spot a concealed handgun

8 Ways To Spot Someone Carrying A Concealed Gun

How to spot a concealed handgun | Second Call Defense

Concealed Carry Shooting Tip: 8 Ways To Spot Someone Carrying A Concealed Gun

http://www.policemag.com/whitepapers/download.ashx?id=41

http://www.gunforums.net/forums/ccw-conceal-carry/3111-how-spot-concealed-firearm-leo-pov.html

Bad guys can figure this stuff out themselves.
Some even read.

 

[bwframe]

Sorry, I thought you knew how to use a search engine.
Man robbed with own handgun in Minneapolis mugging - KMSP-TV

Why should I attempt to prove your point for you, especially when your mistaken.

Still waiting on links to robbed CCers targeted for their guns...

 

[actaeon277]

MINNEAPOLIS - Police say a Minneapolis man was walking home May 21 when he was blind-sided by a robber and pushed up against a parked car before his assailant took the victim's gun –- which he had a conceal and carry permit for -– and placed it against his head.
According to police, the robber struck near 31st Street East and 3rd Avenue, just blocks away from the victim's home. He demanded the victim turn over the rest of his valuables. The victim lost his pistol and wallet in the mugging.

Took his gun, then used it to get his wallet.
Sounds like he was targeted.
They didn't take his wallet, and find his gun in the process.

 

[bwframe]

Took his gun, then used it to get his wallet.
Sounds like he was targeted.
They didn't take his wallet, and find his gun in the process.

That's quite a stretch, my friend.
How 'bout some more if CCer's are robbed for their guns at the same frequency as OCer's?

 

[JetGirl]

Maybe he was wearing tactical combat flip flops!

 

[ATM]

It is very admiral of you to admit that you have nothing to backup your statement. Although you could have just said "I've got nothing"

I'm rather surprised that you would taunt me to pack your lunch again in debate. You always throw a snit and give up in frustration when your positions fail.

Perhaps you should stick to humor.

 

[ATM]

I make statements based on my beliefs and my experiences in this life. I could not make that statement in clear conscience. It seems you made it from your personal belief in OC.
Again, no knock and I can see your point....to a point.
Not everything has a link attached.

If it was the first statement you're inquiring of, my inference that OC deters more criminals that it attracts is based on an older study of polled felons where the majority admitted that they avoided targeting armed citizens (more so than they would avoid police).

That logically leaves a minority, some of whom may be indifferent to and others who may actually be attracted by a citizen's armed status.

I'm sure I could find the link if you still doubt such a poll happened.

 

[actaeon277]

4 Out Of 5 Felons Agree: Guns Do Deter Crime - Orlando Sentinel

The actual question asked the inmates was, ''Was there ever a time in your life when you decided not to do a crime because you knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun?'' Thirty-nine percent of the inmates answered ''yes.''

 

[actaeon277]

Criminals Fear The Armed?. Don?t Be A VICTIM! | THE WAKING GIANT

Fifty-six percent of the felons surveyed agreed that “A criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun;” 74% agreed that “One reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot.”

A 57% majority agreed that “Most criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.” In asking felons what they personally thought about while committing crimes, 34% indicated that they thought about getting “shot at by police” or “shot by victim.”

 

[harrna02]

Not sure if this is a repost.


Man Exercising his 'Open Carry' Right Robbed of Gun he was Carrying
Gresham Police Dept - 10/07/14

Gresham, Ore -A man who bought a handgun earlier in the day and was openly carrying it, was robbed of the gun by another man who had a gun of his own. The incident occurred October 4 at 2:10 a.m. in the 17200 block of NE Glisan.

William Coleman III,21, of Gresham was talking with his cousin in the area of 172nd and Glisan, while openly carrying his new purchase. He said a black man, about 19 to 23 years old, approached them and asked for a cigarette. The man eventually asked about the gun, then pulled a gun from his waistband and told the victim, "I like your gun. Give it to me." Coleman handed over his gun and the suspect left on foot eastbound.

The suspect is described as a light-skinned black male, 19 to 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, short black wavy hair and "skinny." He was about six-feet one inch and was wearing grey sweatpants, a white t-shirt and flip-flops.

The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun. The gun that was stolen is a black Walther brand, model P22. It is semi-automatic and .22LR-caliber.

Anybody who may have information on this case is asked to call the Gresham Police Tips line at 503.618.2719.

that is one reasomn why i cc! Nobody needs to know that I am carrying. I have it to protect my self and would prefer having the elemnt of surprise if it is needed. Plus would love to see the look on their face when they realize they picked the wrong guy to rob! I dont see the reason in open carry. It is your right, but dont feel it benefits the individual at all.

 

[MCgrease08]

that is one reasomn why i cc! Nobody needs to know that I am carrying. I have it to protect my self and would prefer having the elemnt of surprise if it is needed. Plus would love to see the look on their face when they realize they picked the wrong guy to rob! I dont see the reason in open carry. It is your right, but dont feel it benefits the individual at all.

I think you're looking for this...

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/71996-open-carry-argument.html

And BTW, triple posting in the same thread isn't standard practice. I'd say it's probably frowned upon.

 

[cbhausen]

that is one reasomn why i cc! Nobody needs to know that I am carrying. I have it to protect my self and would prefer having the elemnt of surprise if it is needed. Plus would love to see the look on their face when they realize they picked the wrong guy to rob! I dont see the reason in open carry. It is your right, but dont feel it benefits the individual at all.

So you'd rather conceal and be selected as a victim so you can "surprise" your attacker?

I'd rather carry openly and keep my head out of my hiney but to each his own, I guess...

And three-in-a-row getting to 50 probably won't go over well...

 

[SteveM4A1]

So you'd rather conceal and be selected as a victim so you can "surprise" your attacker?

I'd rather carry openly and keep my head out of my hiney but to each his own, I guess...

And three-in-a-row getting to 50 probably won't go over well...

Agreed and welcome back!

 

[churchmouse]

If it was the first statement you're inquiring of, my inference that OC deters more criminals that it attracts is based on an older study of polled felons where the majority admitted that they avoided targeting armed citizens (more so than they would avoid police).

That logically leaves a minority, some of whom may be indifferent to and others who may actually be attracted by a citizen's armed status.

I'm sure I could find the link if you still doubt such a poll happened.

No, I am sure you are not misleading just the statement in the 1st post seemed off as I have never heard any stats that put this out front.

 

[ATM]

that is one reasomn why i cc! Nobody needs to know that I am carrying. I have it to protect my self and would prefer having the elemnt of surprise if it is needed. Plus would love to see the look on their face when they realize they picked the wrong guy to rob! I dont see the reason in open carry. It is your right, but dont feel it benefits the individual at all.

Yeah, good luck drawing from your concealed ankle carry rig when you get robbed. I'm sure the fantasy benefits you've imagined will somehow prevail.

Hopefully, the robber will opt not to injure or kill you during your attempt to retrieve his surprise

...at least not before you get to see the look on his face.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

So you'd rather conceal and be selected as a victim so you can "surprise" your attacker?

I'd rather carry openly and keep my head out of my hiney but to each his own, I guess...

And three-in-a-row getting to 50 probably won't go over well...

Welcome home!

 

[ATM]

No, I am sure you are not misleading just the statement in the 1st post seemed off as I have never heard any stats that put this out front.

I'm curious why the statement seemed "off" to you. Is there evidence to suggest that open carry attracts more criminals/crime than it deters?

 

[El-Cigarro]

Maybe he saw the girly 22 pistol and decided it would be a good gift for his momma. ​He is a good boy and never does anything wrong.

Girly? I sure wouldn't want to get shot with a .22! Especially if it's stoked with "Stinger" Hollowpoints!!!!