Why Obama is going to get 4 more years.

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  • remman

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    I know I'm going to take a lot of crap for this, but that's the risk we take posting in this forum, no?

    So, rumor has it that Santorum has suspended his campaign. Now, to me, that says he can pick it back up, but Romney has already issued a statement conrgatulating Rick on a well run campaign. Maybe that's just Romney being Romney, but whatever. Assuming Santorum is actually out of the race and won't be on any of the remaining primary ballots, and won't get the nomination through a brokered convention, I'm going out on a limb to say that Obama gets re-elected. And here's why.

    Four years ago, the GOP nominated a moderate to run against Obama. This nomination split the party vote. Half of us voted for McCain (personally, I did. I didn't like him but viewed him as the lesser of two evils), and the other half voted for a third candidate, whether that was Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Santa Claus or Mr. Potato Head. When the numbers came in, it turned out that if all the republicans who had voted for the third candidate had instead voted McCain, Obama wouldn't be in office right now. So, did we learn our lesson? No. Now it looks like we are going to nominate another moderate named Mitt Romney. And we're going to run through this cycle again. The Paulbots will vote for Ron Paul (who honestly doesn't have a snowball's chance and I personally find to be a little on the senile side), and the rest who don't like Romney will vote for Mr. Potato Head or maybe even their dog. So what does that leave us with? Another 2008. And four more years of statist rule.

    So what can we do about it? Well, assuming Santorum is on the primary ballot come May, I will be voting for him. Im a strong believer in the idea that campaign trends will follow you into the White House. For example, Obama spent exorbitant amounts of money in his 2008 campaign, especially on unnecessary items, like a 757 for his campaign plane. This trend followed him into the White House, where he continues to spend insane amounts of other people's money on ridiculous things. Santorum, on the other hand, has spent less money through his campaign than any of the other GOP hopefuls. Yes, even Ron Paul. This tells me that he's actually pretty conservative when it comes to spending money, despite what the media would have us believe. He's also pro-life, pro-2A, etc. Reasons similar to this are why I view him as the best candidate. Ok, so what if he isn't? Well, if he isn't on the ballot in May, I think it's safe to assume that Romney will easily take the nomination, so why not have a little fun in an election that literally doesn't matter? If Santorum isn't on the ballot in May, I will be writing in...drum roll please...Mitch Daniels. Obviously, he won't get the nomination, I just want to make a point.

    Personally, if Santorum really is out, and Romney gets the nomination, I'll be voting for Romney. Why? Because in my eyes, he's the lesser of two evils. Will he win? Probably not, because the Republican vote will be split. But I can hope can't I? In conclusion, I'd like to say congratulations to the GOP. It looks like we've done it again. We've put ourselves in a position where a vote for anybody but Romney is a vote for Obama.

    And that, my friends is why I will be voting Republican in November.
     

    fullmetaljesus

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    I thought he was going to get 4 more years because he has been the best republican president the republicans could ask for?
     

    ctbreitwieser

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    I was literally just talking about this with my mom. I don't like Romney one bit, but I like him more than that thing we call POTUS. I want to vote for Ron Paul, but since I know he wont get elected, Im not going to take the chance of wasting my vote and taking one away form the lesser of two evils.
     

    J_Wales

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    When a people shall have become incapable of governing themselves, and fit for a master, it is of little consequence from what quarter he comes.

    -George Washington
     

    J_Wales

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    So what does that leave us with? Another 2008. And four more years of statist rule.


    Both romney and fearless leader are statist pigs.

    Absent a miracle or a great awakening, we are in for four more years of statist rule regardless of the election results.

    When you choose the lesser of two evils, remember that it is still an evil.
     

    remman

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    I thought he was going to get 4 more years because he has been the best republican president the republicans could ask for?
    I see what you did there! but seriously, this is unfortunately on the money.
    I was literally just talking about this with my mom. I don't like Romney one bit, but I like him more than that thing we call POTUS. I want to vote for Ron Paul, but since I know he wont get elected, Im not going to take the chance of wasting my vote and taking one away form the lesser of two evils.
    Exactly
    Both romney and fearless leader are statist pigs.

    Absent a miracle or a great awakening, we are in for four more years of statist rule regardless of the election results.
    I don't disagree, but I view Romney as the lesser of two evils. I feel his statism is a little less statist than Obama. If that makes sense.
     
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    Voting for Paul in the primary does no one 'harm' and sends a message. IMO, Mr. Paul will not be on the ballot come November (if the pundits have their way) and there won't be a place to split the vote. It then comes down to who is the lesser of two-evils. If you like Barry, vote for him. If you like the Republican nominee (seemingly Romney) vote for him.

    It's WAY too early to call this election for anyone...unless of course you believe that the whole election process is a sham to keep the sheeple from revolting and the fix is in for the globalists. I'm just saying'....

    :twocents:
     

    Stschil

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    I know I'm going to take a lot of crap for this, but that's the risk we take posting in this forum, no?

    So, rumor has it that Santorum has suspended his campaign. Now, to me, that says he can pick it back up, but Romney has already issued a statement conrgatulating Rick on a well run campaign. Maybe that's just Romney being Romney, but whatever. Assuming Santorum is actually out of the race and won't be on any of the remaining primary ballots, and won't get the nomination through a brokered convention, I'm going out on a limb to say that Obama gets re-elected. And here's why.

    Four years ago, the GOP nominated a moderate to run against Obama. This nomination split the party vote. Half of us voted for McCain (personally, I did. I didn't like him but viewed him as the lesser of two evils), and the other half voted for a third candidate, whether that was Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Santa Claus or Mr. Potato Head. When the numbers came in, it turned out that if all the republicans who had voted for the third candidate had instead voted McCain, Obama wouldn't be in office right now. So, did we learn our lesson? No. Now it looks like we are going to nominate another moderate named Mitt Romney. And we're going to run through this cycle again. The Paulbots will vote for Ron Paul (who honestly doesn't have a snowball's chance and I personally find to be a little on the senile side), and the rest who don't like Romney will vote for Mr. Potato Head or maybe even their dog. So what does that leave us with? Another 2008. And four more years of statist rule.

    So what can we do about it? Well, assuming Santorum is on the primary ballot come May, I will be voting for him. Im a strong believer in the idea that campaign trends will follow you into the White House. For example, Obama spent exorbitant amounts of money in his 2008 campaign, especially on unnecessary items, like a 757 for his campaign plane. This trend followed him into the White House, where he continues to spend insane amounts of other people's money on ridiculous things. Santorum, on the other hand, has spent less money through his campaign than any of the other GOP hopefuls. Yes, even Ron Paul. This tells me that he's actually pretty conservative when it comes to spending money, despite what the media would have us believe. He's also pro-life, pro-2A, etc. Reasons similar to this are why I view him as the best candidate. Ok, so what if he isn't? Well, if he isn't on the ballot in May, I think it's safe to assume that Romney will easily take the nomination, so why not have a little fun in an election that literally doesn't matter? If Santorum isn't on the ballot in May, I will be writing in...drum roll please...Mitch Daniels. Obviously, he won't get the nomination, I just want to make a point.

    Personally, if Santorum really is out, and Romney gets the nomination, I'll be voting for Romney. Why? Because in my eyes, he's the lesser of two evils. Will he win? Probably not, because the Republican vote will be split. But I can hope can't I? In conclusion, I'd like to say congratulations to the GOP. It looks like we've done it again. We've put ourselves in a position where a vote for anybody but Romney is a vote for Obama.

    And that, my friends is why I will be voting Republican in November.

    You've learned the lesson the Party Elites wanted you to learn. Be a good little sheep and Do as We want, not what is best.

    A vote along party lines only strengthens their resolve to continue to do what they want, not what the People demand and it will Never Change.

    It's time a Third Party steps up to show the two sides of the same coin (Dem/Rep) that the people still have power over them, not the other way around.


    Mr Potatoe Head FTW!!!
     

    ctbreitwieser

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    Voting for Paul in the primary does no one 'harm' and sends a message. IMO, Mr. Paul will not be on the ballot come November (if the pundits have their way) and there won't be a place to split the vote. It then comes down to who is the lesser of two-evils. If you like Barry, vote for him. If you like the Republican nominee (seemingly Romney) vote for him.

    It's WAY too early to call this election for anyone...unless of course you believe that the whole election process is a sham to keep the sheeple from revolting and the fix is in for the globalists. I'm just saying'....

    :twocents:

    I dont disagree with you on voting for Paul in the primarys, but when it comes to the final vote, if Paul and Romney are on the ballot, it will split the votes between them, taking votes away from each.
     

    ctbreitwieser

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    You've learned the lesson the Party Elites wanted you to learn. Be a good little sheep and Do as We want, not what is best.

    A vote along party lines only strengthens their resolve to continue to do what they want, not what the People demand and it will Never Change.

    It's time a Third Party steps up to show the two sides of the same coin (Dem/Rep) that the people still have power over them, not the other way around.


    Mr Potatoe Head FTW!!!

    I agree with this as well, but if/when it comes down to Romney vs. Obama, which would you rather have. Like I said, I want to vote for Paul, but lets face it, he isnt going to get elected. So I would will most likely vote for Romney. Ugh, it kills me to say that.
     

    jrm400

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    It's easy to answer. He's unopossed. Unopossed as in expecting any "swing voters" to vote against him.


    We need to get our act together. When I say we I am referring to the Republican party. I have always been and still am a Republican but our party is currently in full swing to the point of being a corporation disguised as a political party............In the past our party has promoted "freedom".....now we promote the corporate aspect....and it stops there.

    Having said that, I have no inclination to go liberal...geeez! But we're in need of improvements.... big time!
     

    Birds Away

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    You've learned the lesson the Party Elites wanted you to learn. Be a good little sheep and Do as We want, not what is best.

    A vote along party lines only strengthens their resolve to continue to do what they want, not what the People demand and it will Never Change.

    It's time a Third Party steps up to show the two sides of the same coin (Dem/Rep) that the people still have power over them, not the other way around.


    Mr Potatoe Head FTW!!!

    Which is exactly what the Democrats are counting on.
     

    churchmouse

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    There will never be another Ronaldus Maximus boys and girls. The party will not allow it. They want to run the show by puppet mastering the oval office. That is what we have now.
    Chicago has there fist so far up Osama bin Mamma's butt and they are pulling the strings. Anyone that does not see this is drinking the Kool Aide. To split the vote by voting for someone that has no chance in Hell of winning is again being dosed with the kool aide. All that does is put the idiot back in the big boy chair. We need to unite behind whom ever is opposing Bin Mama. If you all run off in different directions to "Make a point" we are doomed. This is why he is up our butts right now. Too many hard heads. Dump the Kool Aide, hitch up your dignity and vote as a body. Moderates are the new deal. We can not change that in one election cycle. Get ready for the ride, it will be a bumpy one.


    Edit....I wish there was someone to vote for instead of against
     

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    Both romney and fearless leader are statist pigs.

    Absent a miracle or a great awakening, we are in for four more years of statist rule regardless of the election results.

    When you choose the lesser of two evils, remember that it is still an evil.

    Lesser is the operative word.
     

    ATM

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    ...I'd like to say congratulations to the GOP. It looks like we've done it again. We've put ourselves in a position where a vote for anybody but Romney is a vote for Obama.

    And that, my friends is why I will be voting Republican in November.

    I'm not a part of that we. The GOP hasn't done a thing to secure my support or vote.
    They can no longer sustain themselves as merely the "not Democrat" party.
    Let them fade into history, they had a decent run for many years.

    I bid them goodbye and good riddance. Bring out the better parties.

    I really wish RP didn't have that silly (R) after his name. Almost makes me ashamed to support him.

    Yeah, he should drop them, they aren't worthy. ;)
     

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    Until the party system is disconnected from the election laws, we will forever be stuck with the "lesser of two evils.". Hell, even Paul would still be a lesser of two evils. Anyone who thinks there is any other paradigm is fooling himself.
     

    churchmouse

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    Until the party system is disconnected from the election laws, we will forever be stuck with the "lesser of two evils.". Hell, even Paul would still be a lesser of two evils. Anyone who thinks there is any other paradigm is fooling himself.


    Yes, that was my point but worded more eloquently.
     

    ATM

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    ...I want to vote for Paul, but lets face it, he isnt going to get elected. So I would will most likely vote for Romney. Ugh, it kills me to say that.

    Of course he won't get elected, but when they count up the numbers after it's all said and done, I'd like them to see how many votes he was going to get.

    I'd like them to add that to the number that claim they will always vote for whomever the Republicans run regardless.

    Then I'd like them to see how they pissed away a winner.

    Only those sort of numbers will have any effect on future elections.
     

    churchmouse

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    Of course he won't get elected, but when they count up the numbers after it's all said and done, I'd like them to see how many votes he was going to get.

    I'd like them to add that to the number that claim they will always vote for whomever the Republicans run regardless.

    Then I'd like them to see how they pissed away a winner.

    Only those sort of numbers will have any effect on future elections.

    No, no effect what so ever. It happened with Clinton, Osama and now Osama again as long as we are trying to prove a point that will make no difference to the elitists that are running the show. We are playing right into the Dems scheme and game plan. Please wake up people. We are not showing anybody anything except we can be manipulated......JMHO

    Edit...the only effect we will have on future elections is by waking the hell up, marching to the polls and voting as a body. Change will come but not in one cycle.
     
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