Poll: Trump as an independent

[jamil]

If Trump runs as an independent. Would you still vote for him?

ETA: This is not a public poll. Vote your conscience.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This poll is in response to Trump setting up the groundwork to run as an independent, showcased in this post:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...5022-iowa-caucuses-thread-26.html#post6345527

On this story:

Trump calls for 'new election' after accusing Cruz of fraud in Iowa | TheHill

And his current rant going on

 

[pudly]

Poll fail. No bacon option. It's state law, I swear.

 

[jamil]

Poll fail. No bacon option. It's state law, I swear.

Oh, I thought option 3 was the default. The "bacon" option, if you will.

 

[bwframe]

I'll stir. What if Rand Paul is the VP on Trump's independent ticket?

 

[IndyDave1776]

If Trump runs independent, you might as well concede to the D the day he files. There are too many people who would vote R if Satan himself were on the ticket for Trump to win, and too many people who will not support another establishment candidate shoved up their asses for the establishment candidate to win. Even though he won the Iowa caucus with a one-delegate margin, I believe that Cruz significantly self-injured in the process. I am not saying that he can't pull it off, but I would not count on it, and I don't see anyone else doing it, leading to the brokered convention which will almost assuredly give us Jeb.

 

[T.Lex]

I'll stir. What if Rand Paul is the VP on Trump's independent ticket?

Then I hope Rand got a sheet ton of money for his soul.

 

[jamil]

I'll stir. What if Rand Paul is the VP on Trump's independent ticket?

No.

If Rand Paul ran with Trump. I think I'd have to question Rand's stated principles.

 

[nakinate]

10 votes for "No, not a supporter" and zero for other options. Wow

 

[T.Lex]

... leading to the brokered convention which will almost assuredly give us Jeb.

Of this, I am VERY skeptical.

Jebrah (which is hilarious, BTW) has done WAY too poorly. Based solely on Iowa, I think it would be Rubio, actually. He is more likable than Cruz.

 

[historian]

Poll fail. No bacon option. It's state law, I swear.

I saw INGO quoted on Armslist saying something about it.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Of this, I am VERY skeptical.

Jebrah (which is hilarious, BTW) has done WAY too poorly. Based solely on Iowa, I think it would be Rubio, actually. He is more likable than Cruz.

You are giving way too much credit to the same people who shoved McStupid down our throats.

 

[T.Lex]

You are giving way too much credit to the same people who shoved McStupid down our throats.

"McStupid"? You're going to have to be WAY more specific.

But, a brokered convention is a different beast, IMHO. Different from the behind the scenes assistance that helps organizations win primaries.

 

[IndyDave1776]

"McStupid"? You're going to have to be WAY more specific.

But, a brokered convention is a different beast, IMHO. Different from the behind the scenes assistance that helps organizations win primaries.

Th prefix is key. It is a reference to McCain, otherwise it would simply be 'Stupid'.

 

[T.Lex]

Th prefix is key. It is a reference to McCain, otherwise it would simply be 'Stupid'.

Got it.

I thought it was the INGO ubiquitous "Mc" for things like "Shooter McBeardsley" or "Sausage McMuffin."

 

[jamil]

If Trump runs independent, you might as well concede to the D the day he files. There are too many people who would vote R if Satan himself were on the ticket for Trump to win, and too many people who will not support another establishment candidate shoved up their asses for the establishment candidate to win. Even though he won the Iowa caucus with a one-delegate margin, I believe that Cruz significantly self-injured in the process. I am not saying that he can't pull it off, but I would not count on it, and I don't see anyone else doing it, leading to the brokered convention which will almost assuredly give us Jeb.

At least Iowa has shown that they're making Rubio their "establishment" choice. I think that trend will continue. And yes, I'll probably vote for Rubio if Trump goes independent. Much as I distrust Rubio, I distrust Trump more.

But what really made me reply is I'd like to know more about the self-injury Cruz did in the process of winning Iowa. Is it his attacks on Trump?

 

[IndyDave1776]

At least Iowa has shown that they're making Rubio their "establishment" choice. I think that trend will continue. And yes, I'll probably vote for Rubio if Trump goes independent. Much as I distrust Rubio, I distrust Trump more.

But what really made me reply is I'd like to know more about the self-injury Cruz did in the process of winning Iowa. Is it his attacks on Trump?

I would first say that if Trump goes independent, we get the D any way you slice it.

I am seeing Cruz at minimum not earning any love among plenty of R voters I am in contact with. They perceive him as a snake oil salesman and just don't like him. My understanding is that he has said some things which appear to mimic Trump's bombastic style, and I guess he just can't pull it off like Donald, probably with the key element being that we all know that this is a matter of Trump being Trump, and in Cruz's case, not so much.

 

[PaulF]

If Trump runs independent, you might as well concede to the D the day he files. There are too many people who would vote R if Satan himself were on the ticket for Trump to win, and too many people who will not support another establishment candidate shoved up their asses for the establishment candidate to win. Even though he won the Iowa caucus with a one-delegate margin, I believe that Cruz significantly self-injured in the process. I am not saying that he can't pull it off, but I would not count on it, and I don't see anyone else doing it, leading to the brokered convention which will almost assuredly give us Jeb.

You are spot-on Dave.

This is why I think it is so important to undercut Clinton at every chance possible in the Democrat's race. Trump takes voters from the (R) side of the isle, so in a three-way race the victory goes Democrat, regardless the candidate.

Bernie Sanders is the only candidate with a reasonable chance to remove Clinton from the presidency in a three-way race...the electoral college will see to it that victory takes the (D).

It sucks for ideologically conservative people, but it's high time to become a pragmatist...with whom would you rather be stuck for the next four years. Of the two, I'd much prefer Sanders...his voting record puts him on the correct side of a great many important issues.

Compare that to what Clinton has to offer..."femininity", and a voting record straight out of hell.

 

[BogWalker]

I think IndyDave has got it. A Trump independent run will split the vote to the point a Democrat victory is guaranteed.

I'm a Cruz kind of guy myself, but if it comes to it.... "anybody but Hillary".

 

[avboiler11]

"Not just no but HELL no" was lacking as a poll option.