Porter County Fair Carry??

[Dosproduction]

So porter county fair has started is it ok to carry there. Also why is the state fair banned? Im assuming the county fair is fine but figured id check with the experts first.

 

[KLB]

Porter County fair is a GFZ. Conceal if you go. It is not against the law, but it is against the rules. Or it has been in the past. It is run by a private entity, so they can get away with it.

 

[HoughMade]

Porter County fair is a GFZ. Conceal if you go. It is not against the law, but it is against the rules. Or it has been in the past. It is run by a private entity, so they can get away with it.

Yes.

 

[mannus]

The State Fair is excluded by Indiana Code.

 

[Dosproduction]

So the county fair is not run by the county. Seems like they should change the name. And yeah why is the state fair like that. Seems odd to me to name one fair as no gun. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[SpiritClump]

Thanks for the great info

 

[KLB]

Yes.

Have you been there yet? I think my first visit is Saturday to get the stall in order.

 

[Dosproduction]

Do you sell something there? My wife went yesterday. She will probably go a couple of times with the kids. We live right down the street.

 

[KLB]

Nope. Grandkids in 4H. That was a horse stall

 

[Tactically Fat]

The State Fair is excluded by Indiana Code.

Minor niggle:

It's verboten at the State Fair due to the State Fair Commission being granted permission to draft their own codes, while the State Fair is in session, in the Indiana Administrative Code.

That code provides for explusion from the grounds and/or confiscation of the gun. I think there's been discussion here about how the IAC doesn't go into the mechanisms on how to recover said weapon or who'd be in charge of said weapon once it's confiscated. I may be dreaming that, however. The biggest danger of breaking the IAC and carrying anyway will be where you park. There's LOTS of parking that's on the School for the Blind's campus. The real Indiana Code comes in to play here.

I'd much rather deal with running afoul of the IAC than the IC when it comes to firearms - but that's just me.

 

[Bill B]

... The biggest danger of breaking the IAC and carrying anyway will be where you park. There's LOTS of parking that's on the School for the Blind's campus. The real Indiana Code comes in to play here.

I'd much rather deal with running afoul of the IAC than the IC when it comes to firearms - but that's just me.

I thought school parking lots were ok now? at least as long as it's stored in the vehicle?

 

[OutdoorDad]

I thought school parking lots were ok now? at least as long as it's stored in the vehicle?

right. But if you're packing walking to or from the car while parked on school property, you are hosed.

 

[Bill B]

right. But if you're packing walking to or from the car while parked on school property, you are hosed.

I just looked it up, as long as it is locked and stored out of sight you are ok.

IC 35-47-9-1, Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:...5 A person who: (A) may legally possess a firearm; and (B) possesses a firearm that is: (i) locked in the trunk of the person's motor vehicle; (ii) kept in the glove compartment of the person's locked motor vehicle; or (iii) stored out of plain sight in the person's locked motor vehicle.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Minor niggle:

It's verboten at the State Fair due to the State Fair Commission being granted permission to draft their own codes, while the State Fair is in session, in the Indiana Administrative Code.

That code provides for explusion from the grounds and/or confiscation of the gun. I think there's been discussion here about how the IAC doesn't go into the mechanisms on how to recover said weapon or who'd be in charge of said weapon once it's confiscated. I may be dreaming that, however. The biggest danger of breaking the IAC and carrying anyway will be where you park. There's LOTS of parking that's on the School for the Blind's campus. The real Indiana Code comes in to play here.

I'd much rather deal with running afoul of the IAC than the IC when it comes to firearms - but that's just me.

I agree. And for reference, here's the IAC, with parts irrelevant to this discussion removed:

ARTICLE 4. GENERAL OPERATIONS
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80 IAC 4-4-2 Definitions
Authority: IC 15-13-2-9
Affected: IC 15-13-2; IC 15-13-7; IC 35-47-1-5; IC 35-47-8-1; IC 35-47-8-3
Sec. 2. The following definitions apply throughout this rule:

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(2) "Deadly weapon" means any of the following:
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(A) A loaded or unloaded firearm (as defined in IC 35-47-1-5).
(B) A destructive device, weapon, device, taser (as defined in IC 35-47-8-3), or electronic stun weapon (as defined in
IC 35-47-8-1), equipment, including knives, chemical substance, or other material, that, in the manner it is used, or
could ordinarily be used, or is intended to be used, is readily capable of causing serious bodily injury.
(C) A biological disease, virus, or organism that is capable of causing serious bodily injury.
The term does not include equipment or implements necessary and appropriate for use by commission personnel, contractors,
authorized representatives, concessionaires, and exhibitors in the conduct of business related to the fair.
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80 IAC 4-4-4 Deadly weapons prohibited
Authority: IC 15-13-2-9
Affected: IC 15-13-2; IC 15-13-7

Sec. 4. (a) This rule does not apply to a federal, state, or local law enforcement officer or to a person who has been employed
or authorized by the state fair commission to provide security protection and services during the annual state fair.
(b) No person in possession of a deadly weapon shall be permitted onto or be permitted to remain on the fairgrounds during
the annual state fair.
(c) Any deadly weapon found in the possession of a person while on the fairgrounds during the annual state fair is subject
to immediate confiscation by law enforcement officers or other persons authorized by the executive director of the state fair
commission.
(d) Any person properly licensed to carry a firearm must secure the firearm in a locked compartment of his or her vehicle,
and it shall not be visible to passersby. (State Fair Commission; 80 IAC 4-4-4; filed Jul 7, 2003, 3:15 p.m.: 26 IR 3538; readopted
filed Oct 4, 2007, 10:29 a.m.: 20071024-IR-080070451RFA; readopted filed Sep 18, 2013, 2:12 p.m.: 20131016-IR-
080130242RFA)
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Blessings,
Bill