Winchester 1890 and Remington model 16 question.

[Floivanus]

Trying to hash out a deal with a friend that includes these two firearms and I’m wondering what the value of them would be, I’ve got no good clue on where to start.

 

[MrSmitty]

Pictures, and more info on caliber...please...

 

[Floivanus]

The 1890 is in 22 WRF, and the model 16 is 22 remington autoloading.

 

[Mongo59]

The obsolete calibers hurts the value but the tang sight is a big plus. The electric pencil is a big negative also.

Several years ago a 50ct box of WCF was $20 so I marked that on off my list. The Remington Autoloading is even more scarce. Proprietary ammo is always a big drag when looking at older firearms. They are still fun to look at but will not be a daily shooter unless you were the guy who gave Howard Hughes a lift years ago...

 

[Floivanus]

Yeah LGS by me has 22WRF for sale (at least a case or two for a better than online price) so that one is at least shootable.

The model 16 being in a cartridge that hasn’t been produced since the late 20’s is a bummer, and I’ve been mulling over the possibility of relining it and chambering it for 22lr.

I doubt the model 16’s “collector value” will be diminished by making it usable, the penciling is a nuisance, but it seems to be very shallow and possibly easily dealt with.

 

[Mongo59]

I would put the Remington in the "good" category at $600. The Winchester (I assume is a third model from the pic) with penciling as "fair" would be $450 plus another $100-150 for the tang sight. If it were "good" the price doubles.

 

[Jaybird1980]

To bad about the markings. I know some guys that look for WRF guns with a tang sight, not particularly a 3rd model, they really look for the early guns.

I think Mongo is in the range, maybe a little on the high end.

 

[Floivanus]

I would put the Remington in the "good" category at $600. The Winchester (I assume is a third model from the pic) with penciling as "fair" would be $450 plus another $100-150 for the tang sight. If it were "good" the price doubles.

The Winchester is according to serial number a 1911 year (457xxx) if my research is correct

 

[Mongo59]

Yep, the third model runs from 325XXX to 853XXX. The external notch for the bolt to lock was the giveaway.

I am using the Standard Catalog of Firearms for my pricing.

 

[Floivanus]

Ended up dragging these things home, and I know I shouldn’t have, but the electro pencil on the 1890 got to me, my fingernail barely grabbed it meaning it was only a few thou deep, a little TLC later and it was gone, ran thru 100 rounds flawlessly.

Not old enough to remember gallery guns, but this little beauty performed excellently

 

[Expat]

The old Win pumps are a joy to shoot..

 

[Floivanus]

It absolutely is; action is nice and tight, no issues extracting or loading; definitely gonna keep a spot in the safe for a bit.

I was eyeballing the one in my LGS for a while, but when this one popped up, I had to get it. Better than 22 shorts in my opinion.