Why Ron Paul can beat Obama: He converts Democrats on war & civil liberty

[HICKMAN]

Chris Cristie would be the only other one I'd vote for than Paul.

Any of those other yahoo get the nod, I stay home and let Obama drive us even further in the black hole.

The f'n GOP hasn't learned a damn thing.

 

[mrjarrell]

Chris Cristie would be the only other one I'd vote for than Paul.

Any of those other yahoo get the nod, I stay home and let Obama drive us even further in the black hole.

The f'n GOP hasn't learned a damn thing.

Actually, I'd prefer Gary Johnson, but he's being ignored to death, even though he's polled the same or higher than Huntsman, Cain and Santorum.

 

[teddy12b]

Actually, I'd prefer Gary Johnson, but he's being ignored to death, even though he's polled the same or higher than Huntsman, Cain and Santorum.

+1

 

[Paco Bedejo]

Chris Cristie would be the only other one I'd vote for than Paul.

Any of those other yahoo get the nod, I stay home and let Obama drive us even further in the black hole.

The f'n GOP hasn't learned a damn thing.

I've already decided the following, for the general election:

• If we're blessed to have Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or Herman Cain as the nominee, they'll get my vote. I don't trust Herman Cain, but I don't think he's narcissistic enough to be worse than the next group.
• If John Huntsman, Newt Gingrich, or Mitt Romney are nominated, I'll vote for the most popular between the Libertarian or Constitution Party candidate, hoping against hope to get them included in public financing for 2016. I consider these Republican candidates to be about as dangerous as Obama, so I don't feel a need to spend my vote on one or the other. Choosing which orifice to have raped isn't much of a choice, IMO.
• If Rick Perry, Rudy Giuliani, Michelle Bachman, or Sarah Palin are nominated, I'll actually vote FOR Obama, because I truly believe that they would be more damaging than the Hussein one. They have sick, twisted ideas of American patriotism & I do not want to see where their rabbit holes go. I'd rather endure 4 more years of Obama giving the treasury to welfare queens than 4 years of Neocons funding war expansions, cronyism, & stricter social controls.

 

[Garb]

I've already decided the following, for the general election:

• If we're blessed to have Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or Herman Cain as the nominee, they'll get my vote. I don't trust Herman Cain, but I don't think he's narcissistic enough to be worse than the next group.
• If John Huntsman, Newt Gingrich, or Mitt Romney are nominated, I'll vote for the most popular between the Libertarian or Constitution Party candidate, hoping against hope to get them included in public financing for 2016. I consider these Republican candidates to be about as dangerous as Obama, so I don't feel a need to spend my vote on one or the other. Choosing which orifice to have raped isn't much of a choice, IMO.
• If Rick Perry, Rudy Giuliani, Michelle Bachman, or Sarah Palin are nominated, I'll actually vote FOR Obama, because I truly believe that they would be more damaging than the Hussein one. They have sick, twisted ideas of American patriotism & I do not want to see where their rabbit holes go. I'd rather endure 4 more years of Obama giving the treasury to welfare queens than 4 years of Neocons funding war expansions, cronyism, & stricter social controls.

You must be one of those America hating libtards who lives in your mothers basement. Otherwise you wouldn't be criticizing Sarah Palin.

 

[rambone]

Back on the OP - Judge Napolitano: "What's a Blue Republican?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti9l9jucEy4

 

[rambone]

Jon Stewart to Ron Paul: Have you thought about flip-flopping?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrybSxF_Vg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-YZueRAOR0

 

[Paco Bedejo]

Ron Paul was a bit slow in catching Stewart's sarcasm & Stewart was a bit condescending at times. Sadly, this was a pretty fair interview, comparatively speaking.

 

[nawainwright]

Ron Paul Bests Obama in Latest Poll - Yahoo! Finance

BOOYAH!! 51%-49% Ron Paul over BO!

 

[Carmelbythecorn]

Based on which poll?

How about this one: Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41% - Rasmussen Reports™

If the election were held today - Obama 42% Paul 41%. This is among registered voters... People who revere liberty should consider Ron Paul.

I wonder how many people could really handle liberty today?

 

[Bitter Clinger]

If Sarah Palin is nominated, I'll actually vote FOR Obama, because I truly believe that she would be more damaging than the Hussein one.

I guess you don't believe in smaller government.

 

[hornadylnl]

I guess you don't believe in smaller government.

So, was government smaller in 2000 or 2008?

 

[teddy12b]

So, was government smaller in 2000 or 2008?

Facts and reason that go against the GOP are never welcome when discussing Palin. She's a "maverick" remember.

 

[teddy12b]

I wonder how many people could really handle liberty today?




Regardless of what we think, it'll be an adjustment for all of us. I have butterflies just thinking about living truly free.

 

[Paco Bedejo]

I guess you don't believe in smaller government.

I very much believe in smaller government. I'd be quite happy to see the budget & size of our Federal government cut to 5 or 10% of current levels.

OTOH, I'm quite certain that Quitter-Barbie isn't a fiscal conservative & am truly afraid of her & the other Neocons. At least Democrats keep some of the largesse in the hands of the citizenry. Neocons do everything they can to funnel it into the military-industrial complex, to corporate cronies, & to other nations...all while trading my freedoms for feigned security.

Quitter-Barbie's "small government" record is explained in this article:
Spending rose in Palin's Alaska administrations - USATODAY.com

 

[teddy12b]

In all fairness to Palin it wasn't like she just up and quit her job. The powers that be forced her out through lawsuits that she couldn't afford to fight. Hardly her fault and she did what anyone would do.

I'm not trying to make excuses for her, I'm just trying to be somewhat fair about it. Her life isn't easy and even though she's a great cheerleader for the cause I can't trust the academic side of her brain when the pressure is on. She would make a poor president but that doesn't mean that she's not very well suited for what she's doing now. She's traveling the country and rallying the troops. Hopefully she'll have the good sense to send some Ron Pauls way.

 

[rambone]

More reason Ron Paul can pull support from all spectrums

Ralph Nader is economically misguided, but is right on about many issues. He is a bit like Ron Paul in that he is honest, direct, does not pander, and importantly does not play into the hands of the Establishment. This is more evidence that Ron Paul could defeat Obama by pulling support from Nader and people like him.


Ralph Nader Hearts Ron Paul, Hails Potential Left-Libertarian Alliance

"Look at the latitude," Nader says, referring to the potential for cooperation between libertarians and the left. "Military budget, foreign wars, empire, Patriot Act, corporate welfare—for starters. When you add those all up, that's a foundational convergence. Progressives should do so good."

 

[Bitter Clinger]

I very much believe in smaller government. I'd be quite happy to see the budget & size of our Federal government cut to 5 or 10% of current levels.

OTOH, I'm quite certain that Quitter-Barbie isn't a fiscal conservative & am truly afraid of her & the other Neocons. At least Democrats keep some of the largesse in the hands of the citizenry. Neocons do everything they can to funnel it into the military-industrial complex, to corporate cronies, & to other nations...all while trading my freedoms for feigned security.

Quitter-Barbie's "small government" record is explained in this article:
Spending rose in Palin's Alaska administrations - USATODAY.com

LOL - you have to pull out propaganda from a month after the Governor was nominated as VP?

Let's see - corporate cronies. Governor Palin would not "play ball" with big oil who had enjoyed a cozy relationship with the previous governors. She could have accepted the status quo and become very wealthy. But instead she cut a hard deal with the oil companies, and every man woman and child in Alaska got a $1200 check as their share as owners of Alaska's natural resources. Doesn't sound like corporate cronies to me.

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

LOL - you have to pull out propaganda from a month after the Governor was nominated as VP?

Let's see - corporate cronies. Governor Palin would not "play ball" with big oil who had enjoyed a cozy relationship with the previous governors. She could have accepted the status quo and become very wealthy. But instead she cut a hard deal with the oil companies, and every man woman and child in Alaska got a $1200 check as their share as owners of Alaska's natural resources. Doesn't sound like corporate cronies to me.

Is it still propaganda if its true?

We went over this before. Palin had next to nothing to do with that money. It's a LAW since the 70's that the people get that money. Its not like Palin charged the oil companies extra money so she could give it to the people.

 

[RockofStrength]

I wonder how many people could really handle liberty today?




Regardless of what we think, it'll be an adjustment for all of us. I have butterflies just thinking about living truly free.

I like the optimism there: "it WILL" be an adjustment, not "it WOULD"

It would be a change in terms of habits, but I think a number of us already have the mindset. That mindset is currently pulling on the bit and screaming with frustration, but we have it