What we know about the state of the permitless carry law going into effect July 1

[KellyinAvon]

So I scroll through it, seems pretty straight-forward.

Covers this pretty good.

Who is prohibited from possessing or carrying a handgun?​

Yes it is illegal to carry under ConC under the same circumstances it is under the current licensing system... since carrying without a license got a mark-through in what became HEA 1296.

The law also makes it a crime to carry a handgun unlawfully. This could be a misdemeanor offense or felony, depending on the circumstance.

Oh wait, hostile media, that's redundant. Let's dig up the stuff from last Spring:

Hey Chris! The criminals seem pretty emboldened right now! Pinner v State 2017 ring a bell? And are you OK with knife, car, fist, or bat violence?

“It’s going to embolden those that are already illegally possessing weapons to walk around freely with them, knowing that law enforcement has limited opportunities to engage them, especially if they’re not involved in any other criminal activity,” Bailey said in the March report. “Those who are prohibited from holding a weapon are going to be able to do so freely without many checks in law enforcement, and that’s not very good for our community since we are combatting gun violence all over.”

Hey Doug! Call West Virginia and see how they do it! West Virginia and Kentucky figured it out and you can't?? That is embarrassing!!

“Policing in Indiana is at a crossroads, and more people are leaving than are coming, and there’s only so much that we’re going to be able to do,” said Carter. “With the applicants that we used to have who would apply to carry a handgun in Indiana, we’re not doing mental health checks anymore.”

Misleading as ****. At the HB 1369 hearings in 2021 the pro ConC LEOs testifying outnumbered the antis.

Not all law enforcement officials were against the legislation. Hamilton County Sheriff Dennis Quackenbush told FOX59 that there was no evidence in the 24 states that have already passed permitless carry laws that officers face any additional danger.

I'll stop now or I'll have to double up on my blood pressure meds!

What we know about the permitless carry law that goes into effect July 1

The days are counting down until Indiana residents are no longer required to obtain or possess a license or permit to carry a handgun. Here’s where we stand amid a growing conversation around…

fox59.com

 

[actaeon277]

The people against it, using bad arguments, are still going to be against it, and use the same bad arguments.

 

[BigRed]

Tell them to go pound sand.

Liberty finally won a battle.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Lets ask the cuties...

 

[Jaybird1980]

So I scroll through it, seems pretty straight-forward.

Covers this pretty good.

Who is prohibited from possessing or carrying a handgun?​

Yes it is illegal to carry under ConC under the same circumstances it is under the current licensing system... since carrying without a license got a mark-through in what became HEA 1296.

The law also makes it a crime to carry a handgun unlawfully. This could be a misdemeanor offense or felony, depending on the circumstance.

Oh wait, hostile media, that's redundant. Let's dig up the stuff from last Spring:

Hey Chris! The criminals seem pretty emboldened right now! Pinner v State 2017 ring a bell? And are you OK with knife, car, fist, or bat violence?

“It’s going to embolden those that are already illegally possessing weapons to walk around freely with them, knowing that law enforcement has limited opportunities to engage them, especially if they’re not involved in any other criminal activity,” Bailey said in the March report. “Those who are prohibited from holding a weapon are going to be able to do so freely without many checks in law enforcement, and that’s not very good for our community since we are combatting gun violence all over.”

Hey Doug! Call West Virginia and see how they do it! West Virginia and Kentucky figured it out and you can't?? That is embarrassing!!

“Policing in Indiana is at a crossroads, and more people are leaving than are coming, and there’s only so much that we’re going to be able to do,” said Carter. “With the applicants that we used to have who would apply to carry a handgun in Indiana, we’re not doing mental health checks anymore.”

Misleading as ****. At the HB 1369 hearings in 2021 the pro ConC LEOs testifying outnumbered the antis.

Not all law enforcement officials were against the legislation. Hamilton County Sheriff Dennis Quackenbush told FOX59 that there was no evidence in the 24 states that have already passed permitless carry laws that officers face any additional danger.

I'll stop now or I'll have to double up on my blood pressure meds!

What we know about the permitless carry law that goes into effect July 1

The days are counting down until Indiana residents are no longer required to obtain or possess a license or permit to carry a handgun. Here’s where we stand amid a growing conversation around…

fox59.com

Out of all the nonsense they spew, this one absolutely pizzes me off. They are admitting to stopping people who have done nothing wrong, just because they have a gun. They are now mad that they can't stop someone that is NOT involved in criminal activity.



Geez, I wonder why officers are leaving faster than they're coming in. It's a real head scratcher.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Out of all the nonsense they spew, this one absolutely pizzes me off. They are admitting to stopping people who have done nothing wrong, just because they have a gun. They are now mad that they can't stop someone that is NOT involved in criminal activity.



Geez, I wonder why officers are leaving faster than they're coming in. It's a real head scratcher.

"Professional laziness"...

 

[bwframe]

State Police preparing troopers for what they can and can't ask with new gun law

Police will still be able to intervene if they have probable cause a crime has occurred.

www.wthr.com

 

[eldirector]

State Police preparing troopers for what they can and can't ask with new gun law

Police will still be able to intervene if they have probable cause a crime has occurred.

www.wthr.com

So, wait... ISP is currently performing stops merely with the presence of a firearm for license checks? Really?

Pro tip: people actively committing crimes are the bad guys. People NOT actively committing crimes are the good guys. The presence of a firearm is not exactly relevant, unless it is being used to commit the crime.

Pro tip #2: If you see someone carrying a firearm, and they are not committing a crime, they are pretty likely NOT a prohibited person. A prohibited person will either be committing a crime, OR you won't see the firearm they are HIDING FROM YOU.

LE in 20-something other states have figured this out. SURELY ISP is smart enough to do the same.

 

[Gabriel]

LE in 20-something other states have figured this out. SURELY ISP is smart enough to do the same.

Don't count on it.

 

[KellyinAvon]

State Police preparing troopers for what they can and can't ask with new gun law

Police will still be able to intervene if they have probable cause a crime has occurred.

www.wthr.com

The BS Mears was spouting on a WIBC story made my Tourette's Syndrome flare up like crazy. Can't tell if a gun has been converted to a machine gun now. WHAT??

 

[BigRed]

The BS Mears was spouting on a WIBC story made my Tourette's Syndrome flare up like crazy. Can't tell if a gun has been converted to a machine gun now. WHAT??

The clown is a mucking foron.

 

[jwamplerusa]

So who is going to win the Pinner vs. State lottery when ISP harasses or unlawfully detains someone soley for the presence of a firearm?

 

[KellyinAvon]

LE in 20-something other states have figured this out. SURELY ISP is smart enough to do the same.

Don't count on it.

As a lifelong Hoosier I find it embarrassing to say, "Ask West Virginia, or Kentucky, or Missouri, or Oklahoma..."

 

[jwamplerusa]

Fox59 reporting is pretty pitiful.

It would be nice if they actually tried to educate the public on the law. That however; would be useful, so it's not allowed.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Fox59 reporting is pretty pitiful.

It would be nice if they actually tried to educate the public on the law. That however; would be useful, so it's not allowed.

"Pretty pitiful" is giving them too much credit. They failed to mention that on 1 July a misdemeanor titled "unlawful carry of a handgun" goes into affect. The same level charge as "carrying a handgun without a license" and will be applicable when coming across a criminal, committing a crime, which is why the Police are there.

This isn't the news, this is propaganda.

 

[bwframe]

Repeal of Gun Permit Requirement Set to Take Effect July 1

(INDIANAPOLIS) – Police and prosecutors are getting ready for the end of Indiana’s handgun permit requirement in two-and-a-half weeks. Indiana will become the 24th state without a permit requirement on July 1. Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears says he’s been attending community meetings with...

www.wibc.com

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Fox59 reporting is pretty pitiful.

It would be nice if they actually tried to educate the public on the law. That however; would be useful, so it's not allowed.

Come on, that would require them to have an elevated IQ over 'moron' and actually do some legit reporting.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Repeal of Gun Permit Requirement Set to Take Effect July 1

(INDIANAPOLIS) – Police and prosecutors are getting ready for the end of Indiana’s handgun permit requirement in two-and-a-half weeks. Indiana will become the 24th state without a permit requirement on July 1. Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears says he’s been attending community meetings with...

www.wibc.com

"because without a database of permitholders, they’ll be in the dark about whether a driver has a gun"... Professional laziness- plain and simple.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Repeal of Gun Permit Requirement Set to Take Effect July 1

(INDIANAPOLIS) – Police and prosecutors are getting ready for the end of Indiana’s handgun permit requirement in two-and-a-half weeks. Indiana will become the 24th state without a permit requirement on July 1. Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears says he’s been attending community meetings with...

www.wibc.com

******* ********!!!! There goes the Tourette's again... My comments in blue.

(Per ISP 7 April 2022 there were 1,221,850 active handgun licenses in Indiana. There is no requirement to OWN a firearm if you have a LTCH. There is no requirement to CARRY a handgun if you have a LTCH. The database of individuals with active LTCHs ain't goin nowhere!)

because without a database of permitholders, they’ll be in the dark about whether a driver has a gun.

(HOW???!!! Will the felons who set homicide records in Marion County become even more violent? Wait, they have, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THE PROSECUTOR!! Nobody got murdered last night because it was too flippin hot to go out and kill anybody.)

Mears says he’s worried the repeal of the permit requirement will make violence worse.

(I don't even know where to begin here. Possessing a machine gun without the ATF stamp is what, 10-20 years in federal prison? It doesn't matter if you have a LTCH or not. How do you spot "Glock Switches" Ryan? Is it AFTER the individual is detained by LE FOR COMMITING ANOTHER CRIME?? Try prosecuting the criminals who keep getting arrested FOR THE VIOLENT CRIMES THEY COMMIT!!)

And Mears says police have reported seeing more “Glock switches,” a device which illegally turns a semiautomatic handgun into an automatic. Mears says the switches used to be rare in Indianapolis, but says police confiscated eight in a recent two-week period. If officers don’t know up front you have a gun permit, Mears says they won’t be able to spot Glock switches either.

 

[Expat]

Sounds like he is going to use Biden logic (inflation started before Russian invasion, but Russia is to blame for it all), even though gun crime was already exploding, the explosion will all be due to the permitless system.