Ukraine first and Austria second for martial law, Could it happen here?

[edsinger]

WHO CARRIES OUT COUP D' ETAT UNDER PANDEMIC EMERGENCY PRETEXT

MARTIAL LAW IN THE UKRAINE * PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ARRESTS OF OPPONENTS OF FORCED VACCINATION AND QUARANTINES * WHO CARRIES OUT COUP D' ETAT UNDER PANDEMIC EMERGENCY PRETEXT

Now this is downright scary....

Ukraine first and Austria second for martial law

Ukraine first and Austria second for martial law?

I have been following what is going on in the Ukraine that last few days and it seems to be getting worse, MUCH worse.


This could be related to what information can be learned from a link to a video I found on the Internet. It was a long video so most did not watch it. I have since found a transcript for the video.

LINK HERE : https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...at_you_should_at_least_consider_watching.html

I have not been able to prove anything, but I am working on it or at least following developments as much as I can.

Maybe it is all a bunch of horsepucky, (I hope it is), but I remain cautious about what I immediately dismiss. We talk here of the main stream media not reporting news unless they deem it necessary so we have ways of searching on our own.

It is something that I will follow and I thought I would pass it along to do with what you deem necessary.

The reason it is in this forum is I feel that our constitutional rights could be threatened but just this type of event. Notice the Martial law portion, what is scary is that it was actually Ronald Reagan that passed that into law. I never understood why he would do that and I still don't.

As I stated in my other thread, this smells of some type of dry run. I do not think that the swine flu is all that dangerous, but.....whats next is the one that scares me the most.

****** UPDATE ******

British scientists testing Ukrainian 'super flu' that has killed 189 people | Mail Online

He said: 'We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal.

 

[Sthunter987]

It will never happen here. To many people will NEVER give up their guns in America.

 

[rambone]

MARTIAL LAW IN THE UKRAINE * PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ARRESTS OF OPPONENTS OF FORCED VACCINATION AND QUARANTINES * WHO CARRIES OUT COUP D' ETAT UNDER PANDEMIC EMERGENCY PRETEXT

The Ukrainian President Victor Yushchenko has issued a statement strongly suggesting that the government is preparing to carry out mass forced vaccinations with the untested swine flu jab.

In a statement posted on the government website, Yushchenko announced a crack down on political protests and orders for the arrest of public health officials who have opposed mass "swine flu“ vaccinations and quarantines.

President's address to the Ukrainian people on the occasion of flu epidemic in Ukraine - Official web-site of President of Ukraine

"I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups,“ he said.

"This means that medical aid must be urgently reinforced by emergency, critical care treatment. It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination,“ he said.

Yushchenko said he had ordered key medical officials who allowed political protests against the government to continue in the city of Kiev to be arrested under the pretext that they were jeopardising public health.

"I have addressed the Prosecutor General of Ukraine with the request to institute criminal charges of negligence committed by first of all the Chief Sanitary Inspector, Kyiv City Sanitarian and the officials, who, despite having daily information on the epidemic situation in the country, neglected it in pursuit of political dividends and ambition,“ he said.

Furthermore, he strongly suggested that democracy in the Ukraine was about to be uprooted and replaced by military rule under a special "interdepartmental commission“ that follows orders from WHO and the UN.

"We must change the system. We must change the entire system of government in Ukraine,“ Yushchenko said.

"Back in April of 2009 I addressed the Government with the request to establish a special interdepartmental commission on fighting the spread of flu viruses, to finance the establishment of Flu Center and to take all measures to protect the country against flu. That included providing adequate availability of medicines, facemasks and all other necessaries. "

This "interdepartmental commission“ to tackle pandemic flus appears to be subordinated to WHO and the UN under provisions in the International Health Regulations 2005.

In addition, he said he had issued a ban on all medicines to treat infections and will allow the use only of toxic and untested swine flu jabs mandated by WHO: the "vaccines“ are classified as bioweapons by EU and US authorities.

"I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.

Studying this issue by the National Security and Defense Council shown that this procedure has allowed various dealers to bring to Ukraine dubious medicines, which are not recognized by the WHO or other national institutions,“ he said.

In addtion, he said that anyone who did not follow the government’s orders on the pandemic would be arrested.

"Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities,“ he said.

Yushchenko amended the national pandemic plan on October 30th to increase the power of the secret services and police in the event of a pandemic emergency.

In his statement, Yuschenko maintains that the "swine flu“ virus may have mutated into something more virulent. Indeed, a WHO affiliated scientist, Professor Bruno Lina, has been actively looking for a gene to make the H1N1 virus more lethal in a laboratory in Lyon.

The implementation of the emergency comes amid allegations that the government, WHO and the pharmaceutical company, Baxter, were involved in the deliberate release of a pneumonic plague pathogen in order to create chaos and confusion and justify a coup d’etat.

This is the statement by Yushchenko on his website:

President's address to the Ukrainian people on the occasion of flu epidemic in Ukraine - Official web-site of President of Ukraine

November 4, 2009

Dear fellow citizens!

I address you in performance of my constitutional duty under the Article 106 of the Basic Law of the state.

The reason is the emergency epidemic situation in the country.

Infections of viral origin, including the A/H1N1 flu, are rapidly spreading across Ukraine.

The emergency is evident in the scale of the epidemic: the speed and the geography of its spreading, rapid progress of the illness and the exceptional number of deaths.

People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely unprecedented and inconceivable in the XXI century.

All the limits have been exceeded - even those under the Constitution that determine my actions as the President.

Therefore I am motivated by the most important: the security of your life and your health.

Therefore I give clear and frank assessment of the situation. And you should know that.

We have special risk factors that aggravate the epidemic in Ukraine.

The conclusions of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, my numerous consultations with national and international experts show that.

First. Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three pathogens of viral infections came to Ukraine at the same time: two of them are seasonal flu and the third is the A/H1N1.

According to virologists, such a combination of infections due to mutation may produce a new, even more aggressive virus.

That's why I have addressed the United Nations with the request to conduct a virologic examination in Ukraine and to establish the appropriate laboratory in order to take timely preventive measures.

Second. The A/H1N1 virus is easily mutating. It has travelled across half of the globe before coming to Ukraine.

This means that the virus has become particularly pathogenic.

This means that medical aid must be urgently reinforced by emergency, critical care treatment.

The third risk factor. It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination.

Due to unprofessional and highly disorganized vaccination against measles and rubella in Ukraine the practice of vaccination is compromised in essence.

According to the estimates of the Minister of Health approximately 58% of citizens are vaccinated today in Ukraine with the effective level being 90% and higher.

People have stopped getting vaccinated against extremely dangerous infections: tuberculosis, diphtheria, etc.

This led to high risk of A/H1N1 infection spread, when the virus came to Ukraine and made impossible preventive vaccination against both strains of seasonal flu.

All this made general epidemic situation in Ukraine even more complicated.

As the President I ask you, dear fellow citizens, to reconsider your attitude to vaccination and do it if necessary, but only, I emphasize it - only after consultation with the doctor.

At the same time I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups.

I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.

Studying this issue by the National Security and Defense Council shown that this procedure has allowed various dealers to bring to Ukraine dubious medicines, which are not recognized by the WHO or other national institutions.

Under my direction the Security Service is investigating the issue.

The fourth factor. In reality it is the Reactor 4.

I mean the epidemic, rapid spread of viral infections in the west of the country. The Government, the leadership of the Parliament and the opposition were all aware of that already in early October.

The first and the most effective preventive measure is avoiding large gatherings of people.

Ignoring this principle, hundreds of thousands of people from different regions were brought to Kyiv; from both the areas struck by the epidemic, and those where there was no evidence of this epidemic.

This greatly increased the risk of infection.

I emphasize: it was a well-known thing. And it was ignored by the Chairman of the Parliament, by the opposition leader and, first of all, by the Prime Minister. And Chief Sanitary Inspector, together with his subordinates in the regions, including those in the city of Kiev ignored their professional duty.

This directly reminds of the May Day demonstration in Kiev, held shortly after the accident at Chernobyl NPP.

This is a display of criminal irresponsibility of politicians and complete indifference towards the people.

Let me cite one example. On October 20 the epidemic of flu was declared in Ternopil with schools and kindergartens closed for quarantine. "From October 21 secondary and primary schools are closed due to the growing rate of flu and ARD sickness”. This was the order of local authorities.

As of October 20 the rate of ARD in Ternopil was 172.9 cases per 10 thousand people with epidemiological threshold for the city being 160 patients per 10 thousand people. In other words - all services of the country responsible for monitoring the figure were informed and knew about the situation.

However, not a single Sanitary Inspector has banned either the movement of people, nor their gathering, including those in Kiev on October 24, when people have gathered at the central square.

I would like to remind you, my dear, that on October 24, 2009 10 deaths were known to have occurred in Ternopil region itself and 6 deaths were reported in Lviv region. And in 7 days after the abovementioned gathering Kyiv turned out in the situation, when the rate of sickness demanded the announcement of flu epidemic. This is the behavior of the great politicians. The neglect of elementary means of prevention of a disease in any country in the world, by any society. Because they must conduct a show, they have concerts, because they were paid for and 130 million have already been spent.

In that, dear Ukrainians, I see not only moral but also criminal liability.

I have addressed the Prosecutor General of Ukraine with the request to institute criminal charges of negligence committed by first of all the Chief Sanitary Inspector, Kyiv City Sanitarian and the officials, who, despite having daily information on the epidemic situation in the country, neglected it in pursuit of political dividends and ambition.

Now, the only principle of organizing preventive measures at the national scale should be as follows:

We treat the West and defend East, Center, North and South of Ukraine amain.

I now rely solely on the professionalism of our doctors. Today they are the true heroes of our nation.

I once again demand the Government to comply with the order the National Security and Defense Council to resolve the issue of wages for our doctors in this difficult period for the country.

The fifth factor.

Dear fellow citizens, the key threat that is aggravating the situation is chaos in the system of healthcare and protection of lives of people.

Today we must recognize that Ukraine does not have a single healthcare system. Prevention of any infection, including through vaccination, the localization and overcoming the consequences of epidemics is the responsibility of the State Sanitary-Epidemiological Service of Ukraine.

The Service is headed by the Chief Sanitary Inspector. He is appointed by the Prime Minister.

The current Constitution after alterations in 2004 makes the Government solely responsible for conducting state healthcare policy.

The practice of using the power, as evident today, is a failure.

To the executive power, which is not subordinate to the President, I have suggested the holistic healthcare reforms plan and a set of instructions and recommendations that would help create the optimal model of the system for years to come. My remarks were presented as the groundless interference in Government’s work and as the unfounded criticism.

Back in April of 2009 I addressed the Government with the request to establish a special interdepartmental commission on fighting the spread of flu viruses, to finance the establishment of Flu Center and to take all measures to protect the country against flu. That included providing adequate availability of medicines, facemasks and all other necessaries.

Partial implementation of the instructions has its consequences.

They were not ignoring me – they were ignoring the people, the citizens. It is clear why. Because Ukraine still has unfair system of healthcare - one is for the power, the other is for the people.

We must change the system. We must change the entire system of government in Ukraine.

But now, in this moment there is no time for waiting or remonstrance.

National Security and Defense Council should become the center of decision-making.

Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities.

I remind all the responsible persons and draw attention to all of my orders, made in Lviv four days ago. In three days the deadline for compliance with these orders expires.

With my decree I put Minister of Health and Chief Sanitary Inspector of Ukraine into the Council for National Security and Defense.

I am conscious of my responsibility.

I express deep condolences to the families and relatives of those who have died.

I express my deep appreciation to doctors, who are saving our people risking their own lives. I am moved by this sacrifice. Such a commitment means that the epidemic will be stopped.

I appeal to all of you, dear fellow citizens, to show solidarity, mutual support, and strictly adhere to all the safety regulations regarding protection of your health and lives.

For not a single moment you will be left alone by the state.

 

[edsinger]

It wasn't about just giving up guns.....its your constitutional rights that go away...the guns are just part of the equation.

 

[MoparMan]

Could it happen here-Yes
Would it happen here-?

This issue of Martial Law in the States has been discussed many times as has caused numerous flame wars. There are instances where it has happened in a smaller scale.

I'm sure it could and will eventually happen in a much larger scale. You'll find some military that will not go along with it, but there will be some that will.

This is a topic that is getting increased training daily!

 

[edsinger]

MY intention is NO flame war at all but a discussion of the ramifications of the possibilities of this happening here in the US.

 

[SavageEagle]

Could it happen here-Yes
Would it happen here-?

This issue of Martial Law in the States has been discussed many times as has caused numerous flame wars. There are instances where it has happened in a smaller scale.

I'm sure it could and will eventually happen in a much larger scale. You'll find some military that will not go along with it, but there will be some that will.

This is a topic that is getting increased training daily!

To answer your question about WOULD it happen here....

If there wasn't at least a REALLY good chance, why is the military preparing for this?

5 Battalions in 5 Regions all across the USA are training for just this, RIGHT NOW. They are actively preparing for martial law so why should we think that we're not standing on the edge of such? If we weren't so close to the brink, why would the military be doing dedicated training for such?

 

[edsinger]

To answer your question about WOULD it happen here....

If there wasn't at least a REALLY good chance, why is the military preparing for this?

5 Battalions in 5 Regions all across the USA are training for just this, RIGHT NOW. They are actively preparing for martial law so why should we think that we're not standing on the edge of such? If we weren't so close to the brink, why would the military be doing dedicated training for such?

Very GOOD point.......something is in the works...globally.

 

[SavageEagle]

Very GOOD point.......something is in the works...globally.

Something has been in the works globally for decades. There's just one problem. They know they can't control us because we have the rights to own firearms. They're currently working to get around that.

That's why I'm here. That's why I do what I can to fight for freedom instead of being just your typical Keyboard Commando.

 

[MoparMan]

That's why I'm here. That's why I do what I can to fight for freedom instead of being just your typical Keyboard Commando.

Had me fooled, LOL.

 

[techres]

Outside of Tom Jones and other TFH'ers, can anyone verify that:

Ukraine is under martial law?
Ukraine is forcing vaccinations?
Anything other than talk has happened, if that?

Seriously, the Ukraine was more than able to get out news from the streets during the orange uprising. It is quiet now. Am I missing something?

 

[SavageEagle]

Had me fooled, LOL.

When I get the next OC Walk going I expect to see you out there with us!

Outside of Tom Jones and other TFH'ers, can anyone verify that:

Ukraine is under martial law?
Ukraine is forcing vaccinations?
Anything other than talk has happened, if that?

Seriously, the Ukraine was more than able to get out news from the streets during the orange uprising. It is quiet now. Am I missing something?

They were until the government had shut down access to facebook and the like. Can anyone confirm this isn't the case now? I mean, if they went into Martial Law, wouldn't internet access be one of the first things they try to shut down?

 

[techres]

When I get the next OC Walk going I expect to see you out there with us!



They were until the government had shut down access to facebook and the like. Can anyone confirm this isn't the case now? I mean, if they went into Martial Law, wouldn't internet access be one of the first things they try to shut down?

So, since we have not heard about martial law, they must be under martial law?

I think Iowa might be under martial law then too.

 

[SavageEagle]

So, since we have not heard about martial law, they must be under martial law?

I think Iowa might be under martial law then too.

I know it sounded absurd, but it was just a thought. If they shut down internet access once, they can do it again, right?

 

[MoparMan]

When I get the next OC Walk going I expect to see you out there with us!

LOL, not my cup of tea, bro. I like a more hands on approach to my OC'ing and the military lets me do that, LOL.



They were until the government had shut down access to facebook and the like. Can anyone confirm this isn't the case now? I mean, if they went into Martial Law, wouldn't internet access be one of the first things they try to shut down?

FYI, I can tell you that wouldnt be the first thing shut down here, but its up there.

 

[SavageEagle]

Ukraine News

 

[SavageEagle]

FYI, I can tell you that wouldnt be the first thing shut down here, but its up there.

Of course, but we have a little bit better communication system that would be harder to disable than the Ukraine's...

 

[edsinger]

There's just one problem. They know they can't control us because we have the rights to own firearms. They're currently working to get around that.

Exactly, and that is why they are using world bodies to erode our freedoms.

 

[MoparMan]

Where does it say they're under martial law?

 

[SavageEagle]

Where does it say they're under martial law?

It doesn't, but they do say that the flu MAY suspend their elections. That's pretty alarming in and of itself. It may not be martial law, and I never said they were, but the IDEA that a flu bug could shut down government is asinine. Makes you wonder what's really going on over there.

Then again, this could be a state run news agency....