Some Things I learned From my Liberal Friends over the Last Eight Years

[IUGradStudent]

IF YOU'RE NOT OUTRAGED YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION

IF YOU SUPPORTED OBAMA DRIVING A PRIUS WON'T MAKE UP FOR IT

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS IMPEACH OBAMA

SEND THE GIRLS

ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGE, AND EUTHANASIA ARE MORAL ISSUES

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS LET THEM FINISH THE MISSION!

OBAMA LIED AND YOU KNOW IT

SECULARISM - A THREAT ABROAD -A THREAT AT HOME

GOD BLESS AMERICA

OBAMA SPENT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY ON HIS BAILOUT

THE DUTY OF PATRIOTS: PROTECT OUR COUNTRY FROM ITS GOVERNMENT, (Thomas Payne)

Election 2008, THE TIMES PLAGUE WHEN MADMEN LEAD THE BLIND" William Shakespeare (King Lear)

PRO AMERICA - ANTI OBAMA
WHO WOULD JESUS TELL TO SURRENDER?

IF YOU SUPPORT OBAMA'S SURRENDER WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?

I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO DIDN’T SCREW HIS INTERN OR HIS COUNTRY.

JESUS WAS A SOCIAL ACTIVIST CONSERVATIVE

IS IT 2012 YET?

DISSENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF PATRIOTISM,

DON'T BLAME ME - I VOTED FOR PALIN!

ANNOY A LIBERAL; THINK FOR YOURSELF

OBAMA – SURRENDERING TO TERRORISTS FASTER THAN HE CAN APPEASE THEM

WHERE ARE WE GOING? AND WHY ARE WE IN THIS HANDBASKET?

HONOR OUR TROOPS – LET THEM FINISH THE MISSION

SEND AID TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES? WHY NOT SPEND 87 BILLION ON AMERICA?

THE LAST TIME RELIGION LEFT POLITICS PEOPLE GOT SENT TO THE GULAGS

 

[rcuhljr]

You learned that caps lock is cruise control for cool?

 

[imprimis5]

What? My eyears are still ringing.

 

[CarmelHP]

Sounded good to me and rang true.

 

[IUGradStudent]

Hey, I cut & pasted most of it, with minor edits....saved retyping, gimme a break.

 

[CarmelHP]

Right back at ya, Rahm!

 

[rhino]

I find myself increasingly unable be friends with people who are pseudo-liberal socialist-statists, whether they acknowledge they are or not. I continue to drift further away from people in my life who express such socio-political beleifs and agendas. I find it difficult (usually impossible) to become friendly with such people, much less become "friends" with them.

I find that with a few exceptions that their moral and ethical foundations are contrary to mine. We do not have the same values. I find that I have little in common with them otherwise in terms of interests or hobbies.

Is this a failing on my part? Should I not embrace all people? It's tough. It means I am not "tolerant" of other people's beliefs.

It reminds me that "tolerance" in our current society means that you have no principles, morals, ethics, or values that you hold important, so pretty much anything and everything is a-okay. I'm not tolerant in that context. At all.

 

[dburkhead]

Is this a failing on my part? Should I not embrace all people? It's tough. It means I am not "tolerant" of other people's beliefs.

"Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society." Aristotle

 

[haldir]

Time to get the bumper sticker machines fired up.

 

[rcuhljr]

It reminds me that "tolerance" in our current society means that you have no principles, morals, ethics, or values that you hold important.

No, tolerance means not requiring others to have the same ones you do.

 

[turnandshoot4]

OBAMA SPENT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY ON HIS BAILOUT

I understand this whole thing except this line. This is a democratic house and senate and a REBUBLICAN bailout. Bush himself urged it. Without Bush Obama wouldn't have anything to spend.

 

[Disposable Heart]

No, tolerance means not requiring others to have the same ones you do.

I agree with this 100%. Tolerance to me is the idea that if you wish to know the other side of an argument, you can find out and think about it, at the end of a friend not at the end of a barrel. Tolerance to me is that I can go out and talk to someone about my crackpot ideals, but they can also talk to me about their crackpot ideals, but on both sides, we are listening (a critical thing missing on both sides of the aisle today) and not trying to interrupt the other, no matter how much it makes your blood boil.

A popular thing:
Replublicans debate by yelling over the other person, interrupting them.
Democrats debate by calling the opponent irrational, illogical while they tend to make arguements appealing to pathos or incorrect information.

Strange world. I am a lib, to a moderate degree, but I have many conservative friends. Why? I dont LIVE politics, nor do I force mine upon them. I want friends in my life, not political opponents. Too many believe it is their charge in life to "teach everyone who doesnt believe in this ideal or another a lesson, make them learn" attitude that doesnt make friends but constantly spreads enemies. People who have ever had a political conversation with me will remark that I listen and appeal to logic, but I dont try to convert them. I ask them questions and submit my views (but not attack theirs in the process) but my goal isnt to spread my views, it is to learn of other's ideals and potentially modify mine by appealing to logic within. THAT is tolerance.

Things you have learned from your liberal friends? No. It doesnt sound like anything a friend of mine would post out of anger for having someone disagree with them.