Officer of the year: "Why didn't we just knock on the door?"

[GunnerDan]

No-knocks are a tool, and they properly have a role in modern police investigations.

But, they certainly should not be the norm. Unless the norm is to to go into situations with a high-probability of armed conflict.

A tool to be used by a bunch of tools... no-knock warrants are a load of crap, PERIOD!

Gunner

 

[rambone]

"The number of no-knock raids has increased from 3,000 in 1981 to more than 50,000 in 2005, according to Peter Kraska, a criminologist at Eastern Kentucky University in Richmond, Kentucky. Raids that lead to deaths of innocent people are increasingly common; since the early 1980s, 40 bystanders have been killed, according to the Cato Institute in Washington, DC." [1]

[1] - No-knock warrant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

50,000 no-knock warrants last year - 137 every single day of the year on avg.

Almost ten years later, that number is much higher today. I've seen estimates of 80,000-100,000 per year.

 

[level.eleven]

No-knocks are a tool, and they properly have a role in modern police investigations.

But, they certainly should not be the norm. Unless the norm is to to go into situations with a high-probability of armed conflict.

So how do we convince police chiefs with dollar signs in their eyes that no-knocks shouldn't be used? In this case it was against a guy with no criminal record, no evidence of mass distribution, no known weapons, and only the word of an informant that there were a "small amount" of drugs in the house.

On a side note, Radley Balko is writing a book on the matter and it set to release in July.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Warrior-Cop-Militarization-Americas/dp/1610392116/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361475061&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=radley+balkp]Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces: Radley Balko: 9781610392112: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

He is also featuring a Raid of the Day series on his blog. Today's just happens to be a $4.5 Million settlement for another execution based off bad information from a CI.

The Agitator

 

[Liberty Sanders]

There was a time when knocking on the door was the standard approach.

Good time for a repost of this:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...l_discussion/118937-ah_the_good_old_days.html

 

[GunnerDan]

So how do we convince police chiefs with dollar signs in their eyes that no-knocks shouldn't be used? In this case it was against a guy with no criminal record, no evidence of mass distribution, no known weapons, and only the word of an informant that there were a "small amount" of drugs in the house.

On a side note, Radley Balko is writing a book on the matter and it set to release in July.

Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces: Radley Balko: 9781610392112: Amazon.com: Books

He is also featuring a Raid of the Day series on his blog. Today's just happens to be a $4.5 Million settlement for another execution based off bad information from a CI.

The Agitator

How do we? Well the first thing we do is hang the MURDERERS from the gallows in city center for EVERYONE to see. How about that?

Gunner

 

[churchmouse]

So the moral of the story is make sure you tip your stripper well.

Or vice-versa..................

 

[halfmileharry]

We have to be very careful of the "tools," i.e. powers we give to government, since history shows they will be abused.

The truth of this principle is why, when the states created the federal government, that they endowed it with relatively few limited powers.

Recent history (the last 30 years) shows us that no-knocks are a tool with which our government agents cannot be trusted.

We should lobby our representatives to take it back.

Agreed. BUT...I know that getting power back from any Govt. Agency would be a long shot at best.
Once you give anyone power it's near impossible to get it back.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

No-knocks are a tool, and they properly have a role in modern police investigations.

But, they certainly should not be the norm. Unless the norm is to to go into situations with a high-probability of armed conflict.

I think the conern is that in light of recent court holdings is that now every warrant for say something as inane as Minor in a Tavern is now a potential no knock warrant.

I would think that some sort of standard of no knock entry has to be laid down by the legislature if the courts refuse (a la Barnes).

 

[Bunnykid68]

No knocks work just fine. See here for example.

SWAT tries to take down Internet meanie; raids grandma instead ? RT USA

 

[NYFelon]

No knocks work just fine. See here for example.

SWAT tries to take down Internet meanie; raids grandma instead ? RT USA

I nearly snorted red bull out of my nose reading that headline