Navy SEAL Lessons Learned From Aurora Colorado

[youngda9]

Great advice here.

Lessons Learned From Aurora Colorado | SOFREP

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Wish I'd said that.

 

[netsecurity]

I wouldn't aim a flashlight at a madman with an long gun though, unless someone else needed me to do it as a diversion, but even then, I could just stand up and yell "Hey, shoot over this way!" Blinded or not, a madman isn't going to worry much about shooting with his eyes closed.

 

[Justin Case]

Great Post!

 

[ckcollins2003]

I wouldn't aim a flashlight at a madman with an long gun though, unless someone else needed me to do it as a diversion, but even then, I could just stand up and yell "Hey, shoot over this way!" Blinded or not, a madman isn't going to worry much about shooting with his eyes closed.

You ever had one of those pointed at you in a dark environment? They literally blind you. It's not a flashlight like you get at the hardware store. The light is very intense, and if it has a strobe feature, it almost gives you a headache. It's actually very good advice compared to telling someone to shoot towards you, especially if you want to live.

 

[cigarman454]

GREAT post thanks.

 

[Fixer]

You ever had one of those pointed at you in a dark environment? They literally blind you. It's not a flashlight like you get at the hardware store. The light is very intense, and if it has a strobe feature, it almost gives you a headache. It's actually very good advice compared to telling someone to shoot towards you, especially if you want to live.

+1
I don't think he meant stand up in the open and shine a light at him as a static target.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Dave Spaulding has a great story about shooting a SWAT warrior in the nuts while his magic force-field flashlight "blinded" Dave.

With respect to the author I fail to see how a flashlight will disable a lunatic's trigger finger, perhaps I am incorrect.

it’s why I own a dog that’s trained to bite and protect (another good option).

I'll bring Chompy along with me to the movies. Hope management and my fellow movier goers do not mind. Maybe I'll give him a squeaky mailman to play with.

Look, if we want to prevent Mad Man from going on shooting sprees, eliminate the no gun zones where they do their work. All this gaming the system and tactical shmatical stuff is only ignoring the real problem.

 

[PappyD]

Good advice, indeed.

I'm eating lunch at a new restaurant (for me). I gravitated to a wall table, sat facing the entrance and checked for a 2nd exit if needed. I wager quite a few of "us" do that as second nature.

I'm not a LEO. Actually, more of a Rex-Kwon-Do type.....great reference, LOL!

Uncle Rico

 

[youngda9]

There is a video at the the link but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to embed it into the OP.

 

[TheWabbit]

I just bought my wife (and me) a Surefire P2X Fury Tactical. I didn't care for the 2 stage LED 15/500 lumens of the original P2X Fury (what he had). The Tactical immediately clicks to 500 lumens.

I'm carrying that light at Disneyworld since my EDC will be sitting in the hotel room safe.

 

[indyjoe]

There is a video at the the link but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to embed it into the OP.

It is hosted by their player to disable that ability.

 

[bwframe]

Good info, but dammit, I think I just got suckered into a new light.

 

[youngda9]

Good info, but dammit, I think I just got suckered into a new light.

That's a good thing

 

[netsecurity]

Don't get me wrong, flashlights are useful, and I always carry a super bright little one. But it is more for finding and escape route. Definitely it could be useful to blind an attacker. But in the Aurora case, it just seems he would've trained his fire and sprayed wherever he saw the light coming from. Aiming a flashlight at his eyes while he was reloading would be safer, but it would probably just help him see his reload easier, because he wouldn't be looking directly into the light.

The only option I would consider in such a case is returning fire, and/or fleeing.

 

[CathyInBlue]

I'll stick with my Brownell's Versatile Light BVL-160. Only 160 lumens, but it's half the price of that P2X. Clicks straight to 160 lumens first click, down shifts to 80 lumens (I think) on the second click and goes into a 1 Hz flash at 160 lumens on the third before cycling around. You can also momentary the button rather than click to get straight to the alternate modes before clicking it in.

I put a rail mount on it so I can slot it onto my XDm or shotty.

 

[youngda9]

I'd rather concentrating on blinding him with muzzle flashes set to strobe.

 

[bwframe]

Don't get me wrong, flashlights are useful, and I always carry a super bright little one. But it is more for finding and escape route. Definitely it could be useful to blind an attacker. But in the Aurora case, it just seems he would've trained his fire and sprayed wherever he saw the light coming from. Aiming a flashlight at his eyes while he was reloading would be safer, but it would probably just help him see his reload easier, because he wouldn't be looking directly into the light.

The only option I would consider in such a case is returning fire, and/or fleeing.

You might want to research how to use your light. There is a lot of innovating info out there.

 

[KG1]

You might want to research how to use your light. There is a lot of innovating info out there.

^this^ Flashlight combatives can be very useful.

 

[tblosl]

This was a great thread. Carrying my handgun has gotten to be as common for me as carrying my wallet and keys. I've never thought about carrying a flashlight on a regular basis. I even have my wife think about having the tactical advantage when we go out. She has started asking where I want to sit. She knows I want to sit with my back to the wall and my gun side away from the aisle. This gave me a lot more to think about that really hadn't come to mid until now.