McDonald vs. City of Chicago

[jbombelli]

Do you know of any evidence that Koresh had an unregistered machine gun?

I'm legitimately asking, because I haven't ever seen any, although I'm aware of the allegations.

To be honest? No. But that's the excuse the government uses. It boils down to: "David Koresh didn't pay a $200 tax we refuse to let him pay, so we killed him and most of his followers and burned his damned house down."

 

[downzero]

To be honest? No. But that's the excuse the government uses. It boils down to: "David Koresh didn't pay a $200 tax we refuse to let him pay, so we killed him and most of his followers and burned his damned house down."

Okay, I was just making sure.

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[Bill of Rights]

Isn't there a ban on manufacturing machine guns after 1986? Perhaps that was the "MG ban" he was talking about being unconstitutional.

Could be. It doesn't matter, though. No matter what we're talking about, if it involves adding more legal MGs to the registry or otherwise making them available to the general public, it will be opposed both by the antis and current MG owners looking to protect their investment.

The phrase, "thirty pieces of silver" comes to mind, oddly enough.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Scutter01]

Could be. It doesn't matter, though. No matter what we're talking about, if it involves adding more legal MGs to the registry or otherwise making them available to the general public, it will be opposed both by the antis and current MG owners looking to protect their investment.

The phrase, "thirty pieces of silver" comes to mind, oddly enough.

Blessings,
Bill

I know that a lot of people have a lot of money invested in their MGs, but I haven't met one yet that wouldn't like to be able to buy newly-manufactured ones for less than the thousands that even the cheapest ones cost.

 

[jedi]

The phrase, "thirty pieces of silver" comes to mind, oddly enough.

Blessings,
Bill

The shadow of greed, attachment is.

[SOURCE: Jedi Master Yoda, Star Wars]

 

[lashicoN]

To be honest? No. But that's the excuse the government uses. It boils down to: "David Koresh didn't pay a $200 tax we refuse to let him pay, so we killed him and most of his followers and burned his damned house down."

Burned his house down? Whaaat? The government would never do anything like that. They burned their own house down trying to mix Molotov cocktails. They also shot at themselves the whole time. The government never ever fired a single bullet!

 

[Hotdoger]

I know this has been mentioned already but it cannot be overstated how scary it is that four votes were cast by SCOTUS to pretty much eliminate the 2A. This is a victory. But it's just one battle. The war is far from over.

All four were Democrat selections.
How any gun owner would every pull the lever for a Democrat is beyond me!

 

[Hotdoger]

I am very displeased.
This should have been unanimous.

And now that Stevens is stepping down, and Kagan all but certain to get in,
this decision might not have turned out this way next session.

And that should frighten everyone.

Post from another forum:

Clearly the four dissenters in McDonald are racists, trying to deny an African American grandpa his 2nd Amendment rights. Just like slave owners wanted to do back in the day.

LOL ! That will get the democrat voters riled up!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

All four were Democrat selections

That would be incorrect.

David Souter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hotdoger]

That would be incorrect.

David Souter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You should really try to keep up Kirk.
Souter has been replaced by Sotomayor.
She dissented along with Ginsberg, Stevens, Bryer.

McDonald v. Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hotdoger]

That would be incorrect.

David Souter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I did read your link too. Guess you missed this last line:

] Following Souter's retirement announcement, President Barack Obama nominated Sonia Sotomayor as his successor.[4]

 

[downzero]

Stevens was put there by a Republican President as well.

 

[sj kahr k40]

Stevens was put there by a Republican President as well.

Gerald Ford appointed Stevens in 74-75.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Hot, very funny.

I was thinking Heller. Sorry for any confusion.

However, as to McDonald, as others have noted, Stevens was appointed by a Republican President.

 

[finity]

All four were Democrat selections.

That would be incorrect.

Stevens was put there by a Republican President as well.

Gerald Ford appointed Stevens in 74-75.

Curses! Your plan to paint ALL Democrats as anti-gun & ALL Republicans as pro-gun is foiled again!

How any gun owner would every pull the lever for a Democrat is beyond me!

Seeing as Heller was voted against by 4 justices, 2 of which were selected by Democrats & 2 by Republicans & GW sent his IG to argue against Heller I can't see how any gun-owner would ever pull the lever for a Republican either.

Back on topic though:

That was a great decision & a huge win for the 2A. Could it have been better? Sure, but it's a big step in the right direction.

It was rather funny how Scalia slammed on Stevens. Maybe not becoming of a high court judge (or any profession that should show respect to its other members - no matter how wrong they are), but humorous nonetheless.

 

[92FS]

Talked to my son on the phone tonight, he lives in Chicago. He said a couple things he's seen on the news up there since the decision are:
1. Imposing a limit of one handgun per household.
2. No gun sales will be allowed in Chicago. You will have to go outside city limits to buy your gun.
Remember these are just ideas being tossed around, who knows if they will actually get implemented. Chicago is obviously not going to just roll over and let eveyone own a gun unchecked.

 

[ABolt243]

As a life-long Illinoisian, I think the most shameful part of Illinois history is that we had Chicago burned down once, and allowed it to be rebuilt!!!

Dickey Daley has only begun to think up all the crap he's gonna try to pull, and then spend tax dollars on in court. It's a lawyer's dream!!

Abolt243