Man arrested in 'Call of Duty' 'swatting' hoax that led to fatal police shooting

[OurDee]

If my door gets busted in then I'm assuming those coming in are bad people, especially if it is in the middle of the night when you were asleep, it's almost impossible to think clearly within a couple of seconds.

You need a good dog. You will know before the perimeter is breached if you have a good dog. I know if someone is in the neighborhood and out of the car 3 houses away.

 

[tepeco]

The swatter has called 911 and given them not only the address, but also what he has done already and what he intends to do eventually. I would expect the guy to pick up the phone if the response team called back immediately... He's already shown he wants SWAT to come after him. Or... Using a reverse directory (always available at any police department), a landline might be available. The response team at the PD might get an answer if they called that number. In this case, it would likely have stopped the entire operation as the victim would answer. Or... call the number back that made the initial call. If the number is spoofed it might raise suspicion. If the swatter answers, initiate a hostage negotiation right then. Seems to me, it would be a hostage response team that should take the lead and get first try to defuse the situation, not a SWAT team. And since the guy has said he has doused the house in gasoline, why would SWAT go in with fire-breathing guns anyway? When prepping for the unknown in such a dangerous sounding scenario, seems like a little more might be done prior to expecting a firefight. The 911 operator didn't even ask the guys name. Could have ask the name of the supposed victim as well. Response teams should have an arsenal of questions to assess what's real and what's not. Yes, I know, I know, it's easy to come up with possible solutions after it's all over, but avoiding those micro seconds when SWAT makes that initial contact... that eye to eye situation where SWAT is ready and the victim is totally surprised... shocked even; and doesn't even know what his arms are doing. Innocent citizens just aren't prepared for this. And too many will die. This poor fellow would still be alive if the police had initiated hostage negotiations.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

INGO sleeper cell activated!

[video=youtube;w5fLiulFrmk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5fLiulFrmk[/video]

 

[bwframe]

 

[churchmouse]

INGO sleeper cell activated!

[video=youtube;w5fLiulFrmk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5fLiulFrmk[/video]

Miles to go before you sleep.

 

[HoughMade]

The swatter has called 911 and given them not only the address, but also what he has done already and what he intends to do eventually. I would expect the guy to pick up the phone if the response team called back immediately... He's already shown he wants SWAT to come after him. Or... Using a reverse directory (always available at any police department), a landline might be available. The response team at the PD might get an answer if they called that number. In this case, it would likely have stopped the entire operation as the victim would answer. Or... call the number back that made the initial call. If the number is spoofed it might raise suspicion. If the swatter answers, initiate a hostage negotiation right then. Seems to me, it would be a hostage response team that should take the lead and get first try to defuse the situation, not a SWAT team. And since the guy has said he has doused the house in gasoline, why would SWAT go in with fire-breathing guns anyway? When prepping for the unknown in such a dangerous sounding scenario, seems like a little more might be done prior to expecting a firefight. The 911 operator didn't even ask the guys name. Could have ask the name of the supposed victim as well. Response teams should have an arsenal of questions to assess what's real and what's not. Yes, I know, I know, it's easy to come up with possible solutions after it's all over, but avoiding those micro seconds when SWAT makes that initial contact... that eye to eye situation where SWAT is ready and the victim is totally surprised... shocked even; and doesn't even know what his arms are doing. Innocent citizens just aren't prepared for this. And too many will die. This poor fellow would still be alive if the police had initiated hostage negotiations.

And a third not far behind...

3.

 

[T.Lex]

Wow. Someone really stocked up on alter ego usernames back in the day and managed to remember the logins.

There's gotta be a spreadsheet involved.

 

[1usmc1]

“Ban hammer”?

And a third not far behind.



Yup. Bring on the ban hammer.

What is a “ban hammer”, and against whom would it be wielded?

 

[churchmouse]

What is a “ban hammer”, and against whom would it be wielded?

I believe there was some intended purple in this.
Glade to see some folks dust off the key boards.

 

[T.Lex]

What is a “ban hammer”, and against whom would it be wielded?

***paging Thor, would the user known as Thor please pick up the red courtesy phone for a hammer question***

 

[1usmc1]

“Intended purple”?

I believe there was some intended purple in this.
Glade to see some folks dust off the key boards.

What? Does anyone speak in English anymore, is everything now in code?

 

[T.Lex]

What? Does anyone speak in English anymore, is everything now in code?

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

 

[indiucky]

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

Shama lama....shama lama ding dong...Uh...Uh...Uh...Oh..Isiah moo mow mow...Uh...Uh...Oh...

 

[indiucky]

What is a “ban hammer”, and against whom would it be wielded?

The ban hammer is only applied "if your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine...Everybody look at their hands....It's a safety dance..."

 

[churchmouse]

What? Does anyone speak in English anymore, is everything now in code?

We are supposed to use purple if sarcasm. We all know each others posting style well enough to know with out the color coding.
Most of the time anyway.

 

[churchmouse]

Tsk Tsk tsk...........

 

[HoughMade]

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

Kiazi's children, their faces wet.

 

[Mikey1911]

The ban hammer is only applied "if your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine...Everybody look at their hands....It's a safety dance..."

Indiucky is 2 Legit 2 Quit !!!

 

[downrise14]

Why do we allow police in suburban America to react as if they are in the GAZA strip? It simply should not be the case that an American crawling on the floor in a hotel hallway or a man in the doorway of his own home can be killed for not following every detailed confusing 'Simon Says' command the police scream at him. Are we at the point now where if the police show up you should just lie down and not move and force them to come get you? If you twitch wrong some dummy will kill you. I'm pro-police but lets hold them responsible for this non-sense. They have the power to kill - they MUST learn to use it with more restraint.

How would you prefer they react to this situation? The report was one shot in the head, two being held at gun point, gasoline spread throughout three house and threats of seeing things ablaze. Should they knock on the door and say "excuse me sir, is there a problem"? Blame the root cause, which is the punk kid who made the prank call.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

What? Does anyone speak in English anymore, is everything now in code?

Yes. And if you don't know the code, INGO isn't for you.