M1D garand school me

[rudyman]

I really want to get an m1d ,but I am not that well versed in what to look for as far fakes . Is there an expert or two in the INGO realm that can stear me in the right direction? I want something I can shoot but collect ability is also a factor. I have seen them from $1500 to $6000 . Wondering what drives the price? Thanks to all in advance.

 

[red_zr24x4]

I would suggest you look over at the CMP forum.
You'll find almost everything related to the Garand over there.

 

[sloughfoot]

Also the Garand Collectors Association.

There are very clever fakes out there and you need detailed, up to date info. As you surmized

 

[ol' Huff]

The above comments are good. I would suggest reading the relevant sections in Scott Duff's books as a place to start. Most folks go to what is called the "red and blue" books. Red is the war era book and blue is post war. That is IMO the best place to start in terms of learning part ID and provenance, and assembly history. Those are probably the most critical parts for Garand collecting beyond just shooting one.

As an aside, one of my part sources is a massive pile of de milled parts from all sorts of service rifles. I was pulling out old receivers looking for a particular elevation drum and came across a chopped receiver that had been drilled for the mount. What a shame.

 

[indyjohn]

The CMP sold a significant number of them in the middle 1990's. These came to the lucky recipient via USPS in a rifle sized box that included the USGI BII (Basic Issue Inventory): Scope & Carry Pouch, Shoulder Strap, Cleaning Kit, Cheek Pad, & paperwork. This is what I would be looking for -- Authentic and Significant. I had much luck with mine at an Atterbury 3-gun match, scored very well at 500 yds with ammo I built for that gun. They are hard to find, 10 years ago the market called high $3K. I don't know what today would bring.

This is what they look like shipped from the CMP:

Mine is #3 from the top.

 

[Orlando8]

Thats the problem, M1D's are mixmaster rebuilds and you cant tell the real deal from a basement build. The only way to know for sure you have a USGI build is provenance/paperwork.

 

[kedie]

CMP has rack grade M1Ds for $935. Field grades for $1235

 

[Orlando8]

But no accessories

 

[kedie]

True, but you are also guaranteed to get a true USGI M1D. Not a fake.

 

[natdscott]

Whut's that dern-fangled staynless-steel AR there, John?

Where's the muzzle brake and 30-round PMAG, and..and...

You don't even have a flashlight on her?!


-Nate

 

[indyjohn]

Whut's that dern-fangled staynless-steel AR there, John?

Where's the muzzle brake and 30-round PMAG, and..and...

You don't even have a flashlight on her?!


-Nate

I suspect you already know, but for those playing at home:

Armalite M15A2 NM with Krieger 1x7.75 Wylde chamber SS barrel. NM trigger, NM sights. CMP legal.

 

[Orlando8]

True, but you are also guaranteed to get a true USGI M1D. Not a fake.

But will never be worth what acomplete papered M1D with asscesories is worth.Collectors want a M1D that came with original assecories not built.
There is a DCM lottery M1D with all assecories in original packaging as received, "never opened" for sale on the CMP forum $4500 and worth every penny