Let's Talk Ten Points Coalition

[Kutnupe14]

How much diversity of thought can there be, when 95% voted twice for a socialist community organizer?

How does one diversify with only 2 options?

 

[Kutnupe14]

So I was watching a news blurb about the James Vester murder and I learned that the city of Indianapolis pays these community/faith based "leaders" to "patrol" the harder black communities. It pissed me off that one of the "leaders" used his screen time not to condemn the killing or send condolences to James's family but instead to complain that the city was late getting them their money for the year. Now to be fair I know very little about the Ten Points Coalition and in general I feel the city needs all the help it can get to curb crime and violence BUT I don't understand how we can give these "community leaders" our tax dollars when from my understanding there is not enough $ to put more actual police on the street.

I also feel that these "community leaders" present a huge conflict of interest in their partnership with the city. You can't tell me that these guys, being immersed in the communities where so much crime is happening, don't have ties to the criminal elements if not the crime itself. I know I am speculating and Making some strong accusations here. Hopefully some of our LEO members can set me straight. I am mostly just venting here but I don't think it's a good idea to let the higher crime black communities police themselves. I am sure they are a valuable asset in some shape or form but wht I saw in the news blurb footage was a bunch of OGs in neon vests giving the same gang affiliated handshakes to the younger set.

First thing, it would be appreciated if you had a link to the original interview. Given the way I've seen the media works, I think it's entirely possible that your anger is misplaced. People are often inteviewed by news agencies, at length, and when the interviews appear on tv they are often snippets. So, to say that the pastor interviewed didnt express his condolences may be off base.

Secondly, it's a very narrow POV to assume that the pastors of the TPC are somehow in league with the criminals in these crimes. Your opinion basically states that if you live, or are surrounded with crime, you are probably a criminal yourself. That's a a very short-sighted view.

I don't work in Indy, but I can see how some in LE might see the TPC as being pesky, but I would bet that they are just as concerned about ending crime in their neighborhoods as most other law-biding citizens.

 

[singlesix]

How much diversity of thought can there be, when 95% voted twice for a socialist community organizer?

Plenty. 95% of blacks that voted voted for Obama (if your facts are correct) which doesn't translate into 95% of blacks. Only 61.8% of eligible black voters voted in the 2012 elections. I'm not going to change anyone's mind so I'll stop playing.

EastIndyGunner good debate.

 

[billybob44]

Just working the "System"

To me this is just another way that the Inner City people have found to work the system.

Older "Retired" Thugs are just finding another way to "Share" our tax dollars..Bill.

 

[OVERTHEHILLGUY]

We should have picked our own cotton.

 

[phylodog]

Wow

 

[KJQ6945]

Wow

X 2

 

[vitamink]

X 2

wow, hell... Holy **** man

Back on topic the TPC is made up of ex felons, gang bangers, and criminals who have found religion and therefore collect a check from the city. At least one is a convicted sex offender.

Deep Thoughts: Youth Pastor Byron Alston Arrested

They demand access to crime scenes and find officers at fault whenever something bad happens. Ex: the IBE shooting by where a "concerned clergy" member hypothesized that everyone was actually shot by the police. His statement is below... Btw his son tortured and killed some folks on the north side.

It's odd that I'm a member of the community, but I don't remember electing these "leaders"
Metro Police to use ex-cons in fight against crime - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

From ajabu's blog:
Start praying. I met with Sgt. Miller of IMPD this morning July 18, 2010 on the third floor of the city county building. I filed a formal complaint about the shooting I witnessed on Market Street between Illinois and Capitol streets. I let it be know that I thought that I had witnessed a police action shooting. After the interview Sgt. Miller shared with me the official police report which is pasted below. This report raises all kinds of questions such as:
• At approximately 11:30PM when this shooting took place there were at least thirty (30) officers in my eye sight. At the moment of the shooting it seemed to me that very few of these officers were interested in getting to the exact location of the shooting. That location was at most twenty (20) yards from where most of the officers were congregating.
• Within minutes of the shooting there had to be 50-75 officers on the scene.
• Officers at the Capitol end of Market Street had stop all youth from leaving the area.
• Officers at the Illinois end of Market Street were not letting the youth leave the area although very few were trying to do so. Most youth were trying to exit Market Street at the Illinois end.
• A shooting had just occurred and Sgt. Miller tells me none of the youth who were detained were searched. What? You heard me right. None were searched.
• No suspect was identified. Seventy five (75) police in the immediate area and no one is arrested.
• No gun was found. It seems to me if one of the youth had shot another youth then the shooter would be trying to ditch the weapon because there was no way out. Yet, no gun was found. Hummm.
• Sgt. Miller said a black man across the street who say the shooting said a black youth in a T-Shirt was the one to have done the shooting. Yet, on the report there are no witnesses.
• So shell casing was found.
• While all of this was going on at the Illinois end of Market the youth that had been shot, DeJuan Stokes, was not being interrogated as to who had shot him. When I tried to ask the youth who shot him the police officers told me very roughly to move along. They even put their hands on their weapons.
• Does it make sense that the officers on the scene at the time of the shooting would not ask the person shot whether he saw the person who shot him? Wouldn’t it make sense to ask the youth did he have an idea of who might have shot him? Why weren’t the officers questioning the youth? The officers weren’t even trying to comfort the youth nor get any information from him. Is it possible they already knew what happened before it happened?

 

[VUPDblue]

ban

 

[mbills2223]

ban

ETA: Oh, now I see it. For a second I thought you were announcing a spree.

 

[vitamink]

Crap I thought he meant me! Seriously though the TPC, BMA, and CC suck... It sucks worse that we pay for it.

 

[SaintsNSinners]

I say we cut off all the money to 10 points, Take 1/2 and buy a humvee and lots of banana hammocks... Give the other 1/2 to Vitamin K.... and let him patrol....


Much more effective.

 

[mbills2223]

I say we cut off all the money to 10 points, Take 1/2 and buy a humvee and lots of banana hammocks... Give the other 1/2 to Vitamin K.... and let him patrol....


Much more effective.

I'm not opposed to this...

 

[SaintsNSinners]

Banana Hammock Coalition: Deez Gonna Keep you safe

 

[vitamink]

Banana Hammock Coalition: Deez Gonna Keep you safe

I'd be all for it too i just don't see the city giving me anything and certainly not near the same amount they give career criminals.



You see, Byron Alston of the 10pt coalition has spent more time in jail than most people. He was sentenced to 40years in the michigan pokie at age 16. He was a gang leader and that continued while in prison. His more heinous crimes include robbery with a deadly weapon (several times over), sexual battery (several times), theft, and most recently (2010) criminal confinement, and being a habitual offender.

According to Channel 6 he has turned is life around to be a YOUTH minster. Anyone see an issue with that? So he was a criminal in the 80s with his gang stuff then he graduated to armed robberies later on. In the 90s he began sexually assaulting women. While in prison he sexually assaulted another inmate. By the late 90s he was arrested and not convicted of sexually assailing a 15year old girl. In 2006 he was accused of inappropriate contact with someone in one of his youth program. In 2009 he molested several women, two came forward and he took a plea to criminal confinement, and being a habitual offender. …..Turned his life around my ass…By my time line this man hasn't stopped being a criminal EVER.
"Alston beat some rather long odds growing up in Indianapolis. He admitted to selling drugs as a young gang member and went to prison several times in the `90s for armed robbery, theft and confinement.
But he then turned his life around and became and anti-gang activist and minister, receiving crime control funding from the mayor's office"

While on "HOUSE ARREST" FOR BEING A HABITUAL OFFENDER (a joke all by itself) he went to the mayor with the other 9 points to tell him how much the police suck. This violated his home detention…his HABITUAL offender home detention…being a career criminal that molests women gets you the same sentence i got when i was 15 and brought home a D on my report card.

BTW 4 million of your hard earned money went to programs ran by the concerned clergy and the 10pt coalition in 2009, that figure doesn't include their salaries.

AND these are the people that get paid to tell the mayor how much the police suck…NEWSFLASH criminals aren't fond of the police!

 

[VUPDblue]

Just gonna leave this here.

Community activist target of grand jury search warrant | Fox 59 News ? fox59.com

 

[MCgrease08]

Just follow the money.

From link above:

Rev. Charles Harrison of the Ten Point Coalition supplied Fox 59 News with documentation confirming that Alston is a Street Outreach Coordinator paid a salary of $961.53 every two weeks.

Harrison also provided financial documents confirming the Coalition has received $811,808 in funding from various public, private and charitable entities since 2008.

$343,000 of that funding came from Mayor Ballard’s Crime Prevention Grants.

$300,000 came from Public Safety funding., including $50,000 in 2012 when Ten Point was shut out of Crime Prevention Grant money and received funding only after a scrambled search for sources by the mayor and then-Public safety Director Frank Straub which did not come to fruition until a week before the annual Indiana Black Expo Summer Celebration when faith-based street workers walked downtown in an effort to bring peace to the event.

“As Mayor Ballard has often said,” reads Lotter’s statement, “the Ten Point Coalition is an invaluable partner in helping to protect our community and reduce violence. They work side-by-side with the men and women of IMPD as partners.

 

[vitamink]

Note that the citizens of Indianapolis pay him almost $1,000 every 2 weeks plus gave him $340,000 for his "rape a child" errr uh "rob a child"? Damn what was that program called again?

"habitual offender gang member who rapes and robs but it's cool because he's a community leader teaching kids...and going to jail shortly after for criminally confining them". What a piece of work... He and the other 9 points should give all the money back then leave Indy in shame.

 

[Trooper]

There needs to be a higher standard of who can be ordained. The military standard for chaplains is that you have to have a masters from an accredited college/university and two years as a congregational minister/rabbi/imam.

But as we have seen with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, some have very low standards for ordination.

 

[Que]

Three million dollars? What in the world could that man or group do to earn or even demand $3M from anyone? I'll wait to see what comes of this, although I would suspect there will be something found, but $3M?