Larry Elder would replace Feinstein with Republican, if she couldn't serve out term.

[KLB]

Interesting that you don't complain when democrats claim every time they lose a close race it's because of voter suppression and systemic racism. Every time. Wonder why that is?

Someone on here complained when a D lost that it was voter suppression and racism?

 

[wtburnette]

Someone on here complained when a D lost that it was voter suppression and racism?

That is the traditional Dem response.

 

[KLB]

That is the traditional Dem response.

Huh? If no one here is complaining, why would someone here comment on someone complaining?

 

[wtburnette]

Huh? If no one here is complaining, why would someone here comment on someone complaining?

Have no idea about anything here on INGO, was just saying that racism and voter suppression is the normal Democrat response when they lose elections. I thought that's what we were talking about?

 

[buckwacker]

Huh? If no one here is complaining, why would someone here comment on someone complaining?

If people on this board only commented on others comments would there be any comments to comment on?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

While that may be true, it doesn't alleviate the fact that there was voter fraud. Again, if the dems were so certain that there wouldn't be a recall, why did they cheat?

Because some people are idiots? Or quite possibly Hanlon's razor. Never attribute to malice, that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

I won't trust another election until these unconstitutional mail in ballots are no longer being used. They are too susceptible to fraud.

And just what in the hell exactly makes mail in ballots unconstitutional?

Exactly my point, but it's pretty obvious they did. Or CA is just completely incompetent to run elections. Either one is pretty bad.

See above.

That is the traditional Dem response.

Is the traditional Repub response when a Repub loses that the Dems cheated?

 

[wtburnette]

*sigh*

Mail in ballots don't have the same checks on them as the previous vote by mail system had (don't recall the name and I'm too busy to look it up). There were tons and tons of videos and testimonies about how these were accepted past the time and date they were allowed and how they weren't verified correctly.

Not going to argue. You evidently have your opinion that there's "nothing there" and nothing I say is going to change that. I'm happy to agree to disagree. My belief is different than yours, but that's okay and I don't care to try to change your mind.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

*sigh*

Mail in ballots don't have the same checks on them as the previous vote by mail system had (don't recall the name and I'm too busy to look it up). There were tons and tons of videos and testimonies about how these were accepted past the time and date they were allowed and how they weren't verified correctly.

Not going to argue. You evidently have your opinion that there's "nothing there" and nothing I say is going to change that. I'm happy to agree to disagree. My belief is different than yours, but that's okay and I don't care to try to change your mind.

I never said there was nothing there, fraud does happen. You asked why they would cheat when they didn't need to. Answer is idiots. Another part of that answer is maybe not fraud in all cases but simple incompetence. The government and political parties could **** up a wet dream.

But I'm asking seriously what is unconstitutional about the mail in ballots? I never said they had the same checks as other, that by itself doesn't make it unconstitutional.

 

[wtburnette]

My understanding is that it didn't go through legislation, but I may be wrong about that. I believe it was just adopted due to overblown fears of COVID. Even if I'm wrong, there has been so much fraud and abuse shown that there should be serious checks on the mail in ballots to ensure that fraud couldn't happen, or at least would be very difficult and very rare. Of course, I also believe that anyone in power, politician, judge or otherwise, who is opposed to showing a valid ID at the polls should immediately be removed from office

 

[BigRed]

Anybody see Jamil lately?
He doing ok?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

My understanding is that it didn't go through legislation, but I may be wrong about that. I believe it was just adopted due to overblown fears of COVID. Even if I'm wrong, there has been so much fraud and abuse shown that there should be serious checks on the mail in ballots to ensure that fraud couldn't happen, or at least would be very difficult and very rare. Of course, I also believe that anyone in power, politician, judge or otherwise, who is opposed to showing a valid ID at the polls should immediately be removed from office

In the last general election, yes there were some state that modified the rules without legislation. I'll agree with you that is unconstitutional. I don't believe that was the case in this recall election.

And I'll agree with you that there should be serious checks on mail in ballots. Heck on any ballots for that matter.

And depends on what you mean by removed from office, do you mean voted out/recalled? I'll agree with that.

 

[wtburnette]

In the last general election, yes there were some state that modified the rules without legislation. I'll agree with you that is unconstitutional. I don't believe that was the case in this recall election.

And I'll agree with you that there should be serious checks on mail in ballots. Heck on any ballots for that matter.

And depends on what you mean by removed from office, do you mean voted out/recalled? I'll agree with that.

Nope, I mean it automatically disqualifies someone for office and they need to vacate ASAP and another election would be held. If you are too stupid or unethical to realize that the integrity of the polls is one of the most sacred things to hold dear in this country, you are not fit for office. Of course, I would say the same for anyone who doesn't follow the Constitution, as that is the basis for our society in this country.

 

[buckwacker]

Anybody see Jamil lately?
He doing ok?

Yeah, I was wondering the same.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Nope, I mean it automatically disqualifies someone for office and they need to vacate ASAP and another election would be held. If you are too stupid or unethical to realize that the integrity of the polls is one of the most sacred things to hold dear in this country, you are not fit for office. Of course, I would say the same for anyone who doesn't follow the Constitution, as that is the basis for our society in this country.

I'll have to disagree with what I think you mean. If the voters want them out, they can remove them at the next election. And I'm not opposed to recall elections either.

And do you mean that being against showing ID is not following the Constitution?

 

[wtburnette]

I didn't say that. Two different things. While I agree that voters put politicians in office, they should have rules that they have to abide by in order to keep the job. Every politician takes an oath of office that includes abiding by the Constitution. What I'm saying is that if someone goes against the Constitution, they aren't fit for office and should be removed. We can make a process for it, shouldn't be hard. All these scumbags trying to promote socialism and communism can be removed because that is antithetical to our Constitution and our society. Convene a panel of Constitutional scholars to make up a board to vote or something, I don't know. Keep it simple.

Separate issue would be voter ID. This is an idea that should have been implemented everywhere across the board years ago. Anyone and everyone who is against it is lying scumbag who wants to keep being able to cheat at the polls. There is no other reason that makes any sense. The voter suppression excuse has shown to be false over and over. People need ID's for all sorts of things in a modern society, so presenting one to vote is not a hardship. If we find there's a group that is having issues getting ID's, we just make it easier for them to get. Not a big deal.

In addition to those requirements, I would say that those who maintain the voter rolls should be much more diligent. No more dead people on the voter rolls. No more people with addresses that are blank lots or in the middle of corn fields. If we want our elections to be meaningful, we need to get rid or or seriously reduce the chance of fraud, which in my personal opinion has been shown to be rampant.

These are my opinions and would love to see them "in a perfect world". I know there's slim to no chance of them being implemented because our system is too corrupt.