Is there anything you can't get a grant for?

[hornadylnl]

Shibumi,

Did you find any microbes in the cave with the 2' of bat poo?

 

[ATOMonkey]

I WISH I had those skills!!!!

One of my favorite movies. We counted, and he kills about 30 people in various ways.

 

[Garb]

I need to get a different set of skills!
Not that I don't bump elbows with some interesting People though...

Define interesting people...

@Shibumiseeker: I agree, it is fascinating stuff, but I'm surprised it hasn't been discovered yet. I guess many people just assume that organisms can't live in those extreme environments.

On an off note: Wow this is a hell of a thread jack. We went from talking about grants for sceptic systems to extremophiles in caves. I wonder if there are extremophiles in my sceptic system... and if so, can I get a grant to study them?

 

[ATOMonkey]

Use my grant program to get the most out of your tax dollars.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

There are two things that the government will not provide financial aid for. One is the violent overthrow of the government. The other is financial aid to a private primary school.

Well, that eliminates me.

 

[CarmelHP]

Ahh, but it's a trick. You have to be a special entity to get a grant.

...But of course, as we were told by the grant bodies to which we applied, "civilians can't do science."

In the case of federal grants, this is true. You can't...at least not with federal money. For example, you can have IU apply as a sponsor and you'd be much more likely to be able to procure a federal grant. The granting agency wants an organization on the grant that is recognized receiving and doing the administration of the grant. It's a CYA thing with them.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Shibumi,

Did you find any microbes in the cave with the 2' of bat poo?

Hah. I've been in caves with a literal mountain of bat guano. 60-80' high. You DON'T want to fall down there. The ammonia was enough we had to go in with SCBA.

Where I'm studying my microbes it's over a mile from an entrance and no bats.

 

[shibumiseeker]

In the case of federal grants, this is true. You can't...at least not with federal money. For example, you can have IU apply as a sponsor and you'd be much more likely to be able to procure a federal grant. The granting agency wants an organization on the grant that is recognized receiving and doing the administration of the grant. It's a CYA thing with them.

What pissed me off was that we also applied to the National Speleological Foundation (which is private) and a couple others and got the same response. Not in those words, of course, but the attitude was the same. I wouldn't be quite as irked, but they make a big thing of how they support smaller research and independents.

 

[jeremy]

What pissed me off was that we also applied to the National Speleological Foundation (which is private) and a couple others and got the same response. Not in those words, of course, but the attitude was the same. I wouldn't be quite as irked, but they make a big thing of how they support smaller research and independents.

That is Code for Papered and Pedigreed Researchers that are affiliated with us...

 

[rambone]

Use my grant program to get the most out of your tax dollars.

This.

 

[hornadylnl]

That is Code for Papered and Pedigreed Researchers that are affiliated with us...

You wouldn't dare suggest that our government is using our money for cronyism, would you?

 

[rambone]

I actually don't see the ability to give away money listed as a power of congress.

Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

• To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
• To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
• To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
• To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
• To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
• To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
• To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
• To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
• To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
• To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
• To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
• To provide and maintain a Navy;
• To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
• To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
• To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
• To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
• To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[jeremy]

You wouldn't dare suggest that our government is using our money for cronyism, would you?

Nah...
They would never do that...

 

[hornadylnl]

I actually don't see the ability to give away money listed as a power of congress.

You'd like the link in this thread.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/127401-not_yours_to_give_a_must_read_about_davy_crockett.html