Help Please

[jpr]

This belongs to a coworker of mine. It is stamped Winchester Model 02-22. I have done a little research and found that it is actually a model 1902 and I think in 1919 the changed it to the 02-22. But I can not find anything on the threaded barrel. This also also has a metal butt plate which from what I can find would preclude the model change to the 02-22. If anyone can shed any light on this we would appreciate it.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

Now I'm not expert on old winchesters. But this appears to me to be an "old ass rifle"

Others here will correct me if I'm wrong tho.

 

[T.Lex]

Now I'm not expert on old winchesters. But this appears to me to be an "old ass rifle"

Others here will correct me if I'm wrong tho.

I think that's right.

I would place the date of manufacture as a couple years prior to the early production of dirt. Yes, it is older than dirt.

However, I also believe INGO will deliver a healthy amount of proper information on that rifle.

 

[Thor]

With a threaded barrel I'd assume it was used for poaching during the depression with a supressor. Neat old rifle.

 

[jpr]

I have kind of dated it to 1919 but they weren't supposed to have the metal butt plate so that throws me off.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Winchester M1902 replaced their M1900. More than 500+K were made, 1902-1930. Gum wood stocks were rocking when new but these guns all (99%) saw hard use. Mine still works. Simple mechanism that is overbuilt. Will likely be used during the Cockroach/Giant Rat war that will follow the End of Man.

I BELIEVE that you have a M1904, jpr.

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My Maternal grandfather's rifle, purchased with egg money at age 11 in the Big City (Danville, Illinois) before he moved East in a covered wagon back to Sullivan County.

 

[Jeepster48439]

Have you checked with the Cody Firearms Museum (https://centerofthewest.org)? They have a lot of information on Winchesters.

 

[Jeepster48439]

Winchester M1902 replaced their M1900. More than 500+K were made, 1902-1930. Gum wood stocks were rocking when new but these guns all (99%) saw hard use. Mine still works. Simple mechanism that is overbuilt. Will likely be used during the Cockroach/Giant Rat war that will follow the End of Man.

My Maternal grandfather's rifle, purchased with egg money at age 11 in the Big City (Danville, Illinois) before he moved East in a covered wagon back to Sullivan County.

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That's a purdy looking specimen.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That's a purdy looking specimen.

It is one of the guns that started me. Extremely high feelings value, lol.

However, I think our friend has a 1904, not an 02.

 

[Jaybird1980]

@jpr is the steel butt plate smooth, is the bolt handle straight or curved and does the rear sight have an elevator or atleast slotted for an elevator?

From what I see I agree with Kirk that this is probably a 1904 due to the schnabel forend on the stock, although a lot of parts could have been interchanged with other rifles throughout the years.

I would guess the barrel threading was done later, not from the factory.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I have kind of dated it to 1919 but they weren't supposed to have the metal butt plate so that throws me off.

You know how swapping parts goes.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

You know how swapping parts goes.

Pffft, that would require me to break a gun . . . oh . . . wait.

 

[jpr]

@jpr is the steel butt plate smooth, is the bolt handle straight or curved and does the rear sight have an elevator or atleast slotted for an elevator?

From what I see I agree with Kirk that this is probably a 1904 due to the schnabel forend on the stock, although a lot of parts could have been interchanged with other rifles throughout the years.

I would guess the barrel threading was done later, not from the factory.

It is very possibly that parts were interchanged. The barrel is marked MOD 02-22 SHORT LONG EXTRA LONG. The butt plate is smooth and the bolt handle straight. The gun isn't here anymore. It went to my friends uncle.