Gun Control, one opinion

[Hoosier8]

I ran into this online and thought it was interesting.

Gun Control

Gun Control (2000)

by John A. Davison



Dateline September 15, 2000.

GUN CONTROL

This is a beautiful example of the big lie technique in propaganda. You
present an obviously impossible premise and then elaborate on it. It is
also an example of that great liberal watchword - CONTROL. Liberals want
to control everything - schools, land, growth of any kind. You name it,
they want to control it. As for guns, not only can you not control them,
but you can't control those who choose to use them for unlawful
purposes. I had an interesting conversation with a retired police officer
who was demonstrating water purifiers in Costgo the other day. He had been
a cop in Washington D.C. a city with the toughest gun laws in the
country. He said that on his beat alone he encountered a corpse per day on
average. He agreed with me that the Brady Law had probably caused an
increase in fatalities simply because if a criminal can not aquire a
weapon by ordinary means, he will probably resort to violence to get
one. I am also convinced that these safety locks will probably cause
additional fatalities putting them on and taking them off the triggers. If
all gun manufacture were to stop tomorrow, crime would skyrocket as crooks
would steal other peoples weapons.

The real issue is not gun control but crime control. The Second Amendment
speaks of a "well regulated militia." Washington's army was a citizens
army or militia. Our militia today is still the Citizens of this Nation.
The National Guard which is a valuable component of the Armed Forces is
another part of a Standing Army. But they are much too few in numbers to be
able to control crime. In our society that is the province of the Police.
Here is a model for crime control which I think is worthy of
consideration. The nation of Switzerland is smaller than the State of
Maine but has a population of about six million. They have a regular army
of about 1500 commissioned and noncommissioned officers. They serve to
train a citizens militia which numbers about 650 thousand men. In
Switzerland all men bewteen 20 and 50 are subject to compulsory military
service which means that they are trained in the use of all forms of
weaponry. When they go home they take their weapons with them. I have not
seen any crime statistics for Switzerland but I am willing to bet it is
low, especially burglaries. Wouldn't you agree? The Swiss have also been
able to avoid both World Wars. An agressor would be out of his mind to
attack a mountain stronghold where every household is armed to the
teeth. They also have their bridges mined and a state of the art modern
air force. Remember what Theodore Roosevelt said - "Step softly and carry
a big stick". It works!

As I see it, the solution to our very high crime rate would be, using the
Switzerland model, to ensure that every citizen is trained in the use of
firearms, and to have access to those firearms. This is hardly the
position of the liberal establishment. We have already made an important
step in that direction here in Vermont with the Hunter Safety Program. I
would like to see that elaborated and extended to a Citizens Firearms
Training Program.

Thank you. God Bless Vermont and God Bless America.

 

[flagtag]

That's "Speak softly, and carry a big stick".

 

[Bill of Rights]

I ran into this online and thought it was interesting.

Gun Control



Thank you. God Bless Vermont and God Bless America.

I'm sorry, I cannot agree.

As I see it, the solution to our very high crime rate would be, using the Switzerland model, to ensure that every citizen is trained in the use of firearms, and to have access to those firearms. This is hardly the
position of the liberal establishment. We have already made an important
step in that direction here in Vermont with the Hunter Safety Program. I
would like to see that elaborated and extended to a Citizens Firearms
Training Program.

To ensure means to make mandatory. When one mandates an action, s/he is exercising control of that action. To have government force people to perform these actions is to stipulate to government's power to control those actions.

Now... if you want "to ensure that every citizen is able to be trained in the use of firearms and is able to have access to those firearms", you will hear no complaint from me. Making available is not the same thing as making mandatory. How do we properly, and by that I mean in accordance with libertarian values, ensure such a thing? We make it attractive to do so. Perhaps a tax incentive, considering that taxes will probably never completely go away as they should. Perhaps a Presidential award for marksmanship? There are many ways, and the two I just named are just methods government could use to accomplish that end.

The idea is sound, and please don't think I'm saying otherwise. The execution of that idea is what is problematic, IMHO. Thanks for posting.

Blessings,
B

 

[Hoosier8]

I agree with you Bill of Rights.

I like the Presidential Award for Marksmanship. Wouldn't that get people practicing? I don't think you will see it from this president but why not write the White House and ask?

 

[Bill of Rights]

I agree with you Bill of Rights.

I like the Presidential Award for Marksmanship. Wouldn't that get people practicing? I don't think you will see it from this president but why not write the White House and ask?

Thank you. Yes, I think it would, except for the fact that the current President has only six weeks left in office and the current president-elect would only give the award for targets that didn't have any holes in them. It's still a possibility, and if nothing else, we might manage it on a state level, as a Governor's Award.

It's a shame we couldn't do it as a Presidential Award for Marksmanship Improvement, though... The name alone would be a natural.


Blessings,
B

 

[Hoosier8]

OK, I meant this President Elect. The way the paper reads you would think he is already in office.

The PAMI Award huh? Sweet. LOL

 

[flagtag]

"President Elect' is an actual title/office now?

I always thought that "president elect" was a description, not an official title. Just like Obama's "Office of the President Elect" sign that he puts on his podium - I checked, and was right, there is no such government office/agency.

 

[Crystalship1]

"President Elect' is an actual title/office now?

I always thought that "president elect" was a description, not an official title. Just like Obama's "Office of the President Elect" sign that he puts on his podium - I checked, and was right, there is no such government office/agency.

Oprah says it's OK. You're not going to argue with her are you????

 

[flagtag]

Oprah says it's OK. You're not going to argue with her are you????

NO! NEVER! In fact I would offer to hold the ladder to help her crawl up his ***!

 

[Pami]

Thank you. Yes, I think it would, except for the fact that the current President has only six weeks left in office and the current president-elect would only give the award for targets that didn't have any holes in them. It's still a possibility, and if nothing else, we might manage it on a state level, as a Governor's Award.

It's a shame we couldn't do it as a Presidential Award for Marksmanship Improvement, though... The name alone would be a natural.


Blessings,
B

OK, I meant this President Elect. The way the paper reads you would think he is already in office.

The PAMI Award huh? Sweet. LOL

I think I like where this is going.... lol

That's a better use for PAMI than "Pattern Analysis and Machine Intelligence" or "Prairie Agricultural Machinery Institute."

Think anyone would have an issue with making the award design in PINK??

 

[Bill of Rights]

OK, I meant this President Elect. The way the paper reads you would think he is already in office.

The PAMI Award huh? Sweet. LOL

Yes. Yes, she is.

As for Obummer, he can claim to be in office all he wants. Has anyone heard what SCOTUS decided on granting cert to the cases regarding his eligibility?

Blessings,
B

 

[Bill of Rights]

NO! NEVER! In fact I would offer to hold the ladder to help her crawl up his ***!

Great idea. And if you give him an enema, you could fit what was left after you flushed in a matchbox.

 

[flagtag]

Great idea. And if you give him an enema, you could fit what was left after you flushed in a matchbox.

NO, man! Just leave her there to rot! It would all come out in the end eventially!

 

[USMC_0311]

I agree with you Bill of Rights.

I like the Presidential Award for Marksmanship. Wouldn't that get people practicing? I don't think you will see it from this president but why not write the White House and ask?

President already has an award for marksmanship. Every year at Camp Perry the match is called the "Presidents One-Hundred".

 

[samrothstein01]

Another interesting article today in the Indy Star talking about gun sales in IN and Obama's position.

You can't control crime by keeping the good guys from owning guns!

 

[Panama]

I defy any of these dumbass dogooders to tell me what "new" law would stop, slow down or even deter a criminal!

A criminal does not care about laws, new ones or old ones!
That is what makes them criminals!
DUH!

 

[flagtag]

Another interesting article today in the Indy Star talking about gun sales in IN and Obama's position.

You can't control crime by keeping the good guys from owning guns!

Link?

 

[Bill of Rights]

Link?

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/politics_laws_and_2nd_amendment/15089-article_indy_star.html

 

[flagtag]

Thanks. I appreciate your help.