Guardian Angels in Indianapolis

[Thumper]

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After 31 years of wearing his red beret and walking the street, Sliwa is a recognizable figure and is welcome in most towns, but that wasn't the case here 25 years ago.
"I actually came [to Indianapolis] in the 80s to speak about the Guardian Angels and was run out of town," he said. "Might as well have been folks with pitchforks saying, 'Hey, this is 'Leave It To Beaver' land. We don't need Guardian Angels'."

Guardian Angels begin patrolling Indianapolis streets - 13 WTHR

It was this quote that made me realize not only are they going to get hurt, but they are going to get hurt because of their leader! My father taught me to respect the homes of those I visit.

I was on the eastside in the early 80s and they will not be welcomed in my area.

 

[Demo]

Not sure that would be safe for you. Would not want to ruin your rep on here since I'm guessing most people want to label me as a socialist/liberal gun grabber.

Come on bud. A gentleman like Que invites you to lunch on him, plus good conversation and that is your response?

Maybe he would have politely enlightened you to the fact that many of the first "gun laws" and license/permit requirements were enacted to deny gentlemen like Que of his second amendment right to bear arms.

Of course "our" government would never do that...

 

[PatriotPride]

Quote from link below:

After 31 years of wearing his red beret and walking the street, Sliwa is a recognizable figure and is welcome in most towns, but that wasn't the case here 25 years ago.
"I actually came [to Indianapolis] in the 80s to speak about the Guardian Angels and was run out of town," he said. "Might as well have been folks with pitchforks saying, 'Hey, this is 'Leave It To Beaver' land. We don't need Guardian Angels'."

Guardian Angels begin patrolling Indianapolis streets - 13 WTHR

It was this quote that made me realize not only are they going to get hurt, but they are going to get hurt because of their leader! My father taught me to respect the homes of those I visit.

Agreed. I don't go to someone's home and crap on their porch, then tell them it's chocolate. Those idiots are going to:

-Get shot by a thug who is looking for a good time.

-Get shot by a law-abiding LTCH holder if/when they go full-retard on an innocent person. Not everyone watches the news and understands that the retarded red beret means that they are part of the Guardian Angels.

 

[buckstopshere]

I really don't care if people give me negative rep. I am just here to help stimulate conversation, not start fights about stuff. The whole point is to have a running dialogue so that a resolution can be reached.

I think you may need a hobby because you must have more time on your hands than you know what to do with if your plan is to come to a website such as this and be anti 2A and pro gov't regulation.

I wish I had more time to be on INGO but I don't and I certainly wouldn't waste my time going to a pro gun control website and "dialogue so that a resolution can be reach" with the masses of socialists that would subscribe to such a site.

If you haven't already noticed, INGO members don't need a whole lot of help in stimulating conversations - they move pretty well on their own without someone throwing a completely different value system into the mix.

I won't pile on with the negative rep. I think blockbuster has a better shot of getting out of the red than you do but good luck with it.

 

[ProLibertate]

The government that we appointed. Not saying I agree with that entirely, but we did elect them in order that they should look out for our best interests. If they chose to ban political science majors the right to carry, so be it. That is their right as elected officials, a right that we gave them.

Why are you even here, if you are so ready and willing to roll over and pee a little because the government told you too?

The rights afforded to us in the Constitution are not flexible suggestions and guidelines. The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to protect our rights from infringement by the government.

It is people with YOUR attitude that allow rights to be stripped and altered in the first place. Complacency is all that is needed for tyranny to take hold.

 

[cartmanfan15]

I guess I should start a new thread? Not here to spread my beliefs but simply to comment on the idea behind these Guardian Angels. Is there some group that supports them or gives them funding or is this simply a volunteer group?

 

[dooleydclown]

Catman, go do lunch with Que, always hear Buffalouie's is good. Then revisit the constitution and try to understand what it is saying. The good folks at IU are the reason many of us who have lived in Bloomington for years have taken advantage of a chance to get out of the People's Republic.

 

[cartmanfan15]

Lol I know Buffalouie's is good. I know what the Constitution says. Does not mean that it is being followed. Obviously there is some reason it is not being followed. Not that I support not following the Constitution, but it is strange that is has been allowed to be disregarded for so long with these numerous incidents.

 

[Que]

I guess I should start a new thread? Not here to spread my beliefs but simply to comment on the idea behind these Guardian Angels. Is there some group that supports them or gives them funding or is this simply a volunteer group?

It is a volunteer group. None of them are paid, but I'm not sure if they are issued their berets. I earned my beloved maroon beret and I'm sure they could get one of those if they wanted one.

Lol I know Buffalouie's is good. I know what the Constitution says. Does not mean that it is being followed. Obviously there is some reason it is not being followed. Not that I support not following the Constitution, but it is strange that is has been allowed to be disregarded for so long with these numerous incidents.

The only reason any law or rule is not followed is because someone gains an advantage by doing so. The person who lies, cheats and steals, in order to enslave those who's values prevent them from doing the same, will continue to do so unless they are stopped. If you look around, a lier, cheater, and thief are always in the minority. However it takes courage for the abused majority to stand in defiance of that wrong.

In other words, the Constitution doesn't say the same thing you are saying and those on here will tell you so. It's not meant to be rude in any way, but the truth must prevail. Now, if you can show where the Constitution and your statements line up, please open a thread and educate us.

 

[BloodEclipse]

Nice rep, what did you say to deserve all the neg rep?

Who are you talking to?

 

[BloodEclipse]

The government that we appointed. Not saying I agree with that entirely, but we did elect them in order that they should look out for our best interests. If they chose to ban political science majors the right to carry, so be it. That is their right as elected officials, a right that we gave them.

Wrong, we elected them to protect the country and the Constitution.

President:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

CONGRESS:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

Where does anything in there say something about our best interests?
You need to study a little harder young man.

 

[Bushido Devil Dog]

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Guardian Angels begin patrolling Indianapolis streets - 13 WTHR

Well...after seeing the video, I think I've changed my mind...

After seeing Bonnie Smith sporting the uber-cool black gloves with the fingers cut off, and watching her Tacti-gunt flop and jiggle as she finishes up her training in learning how to waddle tall on the mean streets, this is one former Marine NCO, gun carrying, multiple Yudansha ranked martial artist that will feel TOTALLY safe knowing that Indy has such a hardened street warrior like Bonnie "Donut Destroyer" (All GA's have similar nicknames to strike fear in the hearts of all miscreants...and any unclaimed snack foods! ) Smith to protect little ol' me...

If the GA's can recruit 50 hard-core no-BS operators like her to keep everything 5 by 5, they will not only destroy the criminal element lurking in the shadows of downtown Indy, they will single-handedly revitalize the sagging business of the downtown's cookie, ice cream, doughnut, and honey-glazed-double-chocolate-dipped-deep-fried-pork-chop-and-bacon-pancake-ala-mode shops!!

Quote from link below:

After 31 years of wearing his red beret and walking the street, Sliwa is a recognizable figure and is welcome in most towns, but that wasn't the case here 25 years ago.
"I actually came [to Indianapolis] in the 80s to speak about the Guardian Angels and was run out of town," he said. "Might as well have been folks with pitchforks saying, 'Hey, this is 'Leave It To Beaver' land. We don't need Guardian Angels'."

You are right, Curtis, we don't need you because, unlike your corrupt hometown, The State of Indiana recognizes its citizens's inate right to self defense, so we have Guardian GUNS , so we don't need any "Guardian Angels"...

 

[cartmanfan15]

Lol, Guardian Guns. I like it. If this does seem to be a volunteer group, I don't see it being very popular in the Indiana. Now maybe in a state that has more restrictive gun laws, some group like this may be more desired or necessary. As many have said, here in Indiana we can defend ourselves.

 

[Hammerhead]

I wonder how they'd react to an OC event?

 

[csaws]

Yea, I would of hit him for that too.

 

[RockCreekRelics]

Congrats Cartman!! You are on track to be the first member with a red badge!!! While I think most of the members here (including myself) are ok with listening to and discussing an opposing opinion you have to understand that we as a whole are very passionate about preserving our unalienable rights. Using a bit more tact when presenting your opinion to a forum such as this may produce more favorable results.

I grew up on the east side of Indy and the Guardian Angels were around in the 80's. They never really had much of a positive impact on crime. Most of the them had good intentions but I actually believe that they kind of attracted more trouble than they prevented. I was helping a friend haul a foosball table over to the St. Nicholas community center and there were several members of the GA standing in front of the building where we started to unload. A car with four guys (only two were shooting) opened fire on us. Nobody was hit thank God but I think if they had not been there the incident would not have happened. Maybe they were just anti-foosball lol.

I hope for for thier own sake that they realize that they are not dealing with the gangs and criminals of 20 years ago. A lot has changed since then. It seems to me like they still have the "Beat Street" mentality and may have a rough wake up call in the future.

 

[cartmanfan15]

I have done nothing but use tact. Even though many people have used personal attacks in other forums, I am just here to give my objective opinions on certain matters.

Back to the point, yeah I can see where people would just be attracted to these self-appointed vigilantes. Many may just choose to try and take them out, maybe for some kind of gang initiation? I pray for those members of the Guardian Angels.

 

[RichardR]

Maybe it is because I don't know much about them but I don't see the difference between this & any other sort of "neighborhood watch" program.

 

[finity]

Maybe it is because I don't know much about them but I don't see the difference between this & any other sort of "neighborhood watch" program.

Agreed.

Can anybody give any specific reasons why everybody seems to hate these guys so much? Other than "we don't need them", "they won't be welcome" or "we don't like their kind" (what the heck does that mean exactly?)

 

[singlesix]

Congrats Cartman!! You are on track to be the first member with a red badge!!! .......

I don't think it matters. If his trolling than the red bars are his score board. If his a true believer than the red bars are his badge of honor.