Evan B Speaks out about spending

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    Did you get this E-mail?

    Why Washington Must Restrain SpendingBy Evan Bayh

    America is on an unsustainable fiscal path that threatens our future. Changing course is imperative, and Democrats should lead the way.

    Last month the Office of Management and Budget predicted that the national debt will increase by $9 trillion over the next decade—$2 trillion more than forecast just four months earlier. Government net interest payments exceed $1 trillion in 2019, up from $382 billion this year. Because projected deficits exceed projected economic growth, the gap will be self-perpetuating.

    The consequences of all this will not be benign. A world saturated with U.S. currency will eventually look elsewhere to invest, causing the dollar's value to drop; foreign creditors, their confidence shaken by our fiscal profligacy, will demand higher payments to keep holding our debt. The net effect will be "stagflation," that pernicious combination of slower growth, higher inflation and interest rates, and lower living standards Americans suffered through in the 1970s.

    These events will diminish our global influence, because fiscal strength is essential to diplomatic leverage, military might and national significance. No great nation can rely upon the generosity of strangers or the forbearance of potential adversaries to meet its security needs. America is doing both. China uses its monetary reserves to curry favor in developing countries once in the U.S. sphere of influence; we must borrow to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Worst of all is the legacy we will leave. From the "Greatest Generation" we inherited an America that is the strongest, most affluent, freest nation on earth. On our present course, our children will not. We violate a fundamental part of our national character by taking from our children to satisfy our desires today.

    Congress's initial reaction to our fiscal peril has not been encouraging. The $410 billion omnibus spending bill passed in March increased domestic discretionary spending by 8% and included more than 8,000 earmarks. This year's budget contemplates domestic discretionary increases of nearly 9%, three times the rate of inflation. If the past is any guide, it will include thousands of new earmarks.

    Any serious effort to control the deficit must begin with spending restraint. Efficiency and frugality, common virtues in the private sector, must be incorporated into government. Congress should enact health-care reform that actually lowers the deficit. For the next fiscal year, assuming the economy has gathered sufficient momentum, we should freeze domestic discretionary spending, limit increases in defense spending to the rate of inflation, forgo pay raises for federal workers, and institute a federal hiring freeze.These steps alone won't put our fiscal house in order; more difficult action is needed. But by showing common cause with middle-class families facing their own budget crises, we can send an important signal that Washington has the will to chart a more responsible course.

    In many ways, it is unfair to blame President Barack Obama for the magnitude of federal government's fiscal problem and the urgency of dealing with it. He didn't create this mess. According to a New York Times estimate, 90% of the deficit growth over Mr. Obama's first term in office is attributable to policies and conditions he inherited. Regardless, if we wait for the markets to force corrective action, the danger to our economy will be greater and the correction more painful.

    Spending restraint will not come easily to the Democratic Party. Pent-up demand for investment in education, health care and the environment is understandable after the Bush years. But long-term progressive government can't be built on a foundation of debt and deficits. We cannot indefinitely share with the less-fortunate resources we do not possess. Ultimately, a growing economy with increased revenues and a stable national balance sheet are the best guarantors of social progress.

    Fortunately, fiscal probity is not entirely alien to Democrats' DNA. Andrew Jackson eliminated the national debt during his presidency. Harry Truman restored balance to the federal budget following World War II. John F. Kennedy cut taxes to stimulate growth. Bill Clinton left the nation's finances so secure that some worried about the size of prospective surpluses.

    As Indiana's governor, I cut spending during difficult times, balanced the budget, and didn't raise taxes. When times improved and revenue increased, we used the surplus to invest in progressive priorities that made our state more humane.

    This approach found favor with people across the ideological spectrum. Conservatives were happy that budgets were balanced and taxes kept modest. Progressives ultimately saw the fruits of our discipline in higher funding for the things we cherish.

    The choice is clear. We can take the path of least resistance and ignore the impending day of reckoning. Or we can do what is necessary to right the fiscal ship of state and lay a foundation for prudent, progressive government for a generation.

    I believe Barack Obama will choose the responsible course. If he does, he will find kindred spirits in our party prepared to help.

    Mr. Bayh is a Democratic senator from Indiana and a former two-term governor of that state.
    My reply:

    Evan,
    You should be careful, someone will confuse you for a fiscal conservative :) LOL I do appreciate you putting these thoughts in writing and I believe it's obvious things are badly out of hand BUT...

    "I believe Barack Obama will choose the responsible course. If he does, he will find kindred spirits in our party prepared to help."

    Never going to happen, he's too deep in the pockets of the radicals that surround him. I am a conservative and proud of it (and I'm proud of you for supporting some of the rights other democrats think aren't important any more). That being said, I think the Democrats are in trouble and I know some of them are awakening to this fact. I work with and meet with hundreds of people from all over the United States every week and I can tell you, they know it too.
    The United States of America IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH! I live my life KNOWING that. I've taught my kids that FACT (my daughter PROUDLY serves this country in the USAF) and Americans will not tolerate the heartache of the President of the United States, talking us down and belittling us to the entire world. He is so found of quoting President Reagan, He should take some tips from him. This country stands for, and protects this worlds liberty. How about we talk about that?

    Thanks for letting me go on about this and I do hope this actually reaches you,

    Eddie Abbott

    PS good men are hard to find nowadays, have you considered Glenn Beck’s 56 (and I'm not kidding)
     
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    Bayh was on FOX yesterday afternoon and said much of the same thing, almost verbatim. He's putting his conservative spin face on for the election, IMO. I have a deep dislike of the Senator.
     

    kludge

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    ROFL!

    Evan Bayh never saw a tax dollar he didn't want to spend twice.

    He knows he's up for re-election and now he's pandering for votes.
     

    SC_Shooter

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    :nuts::nuts:

    Yep, he's up next year.

    It's funny, he says all this, but backed Obama's current budget. Makes a lot of sense, huh? :nuts:

    And therein lies the problem. Like most, EB is a whore for votes and will say just about anything to get himself re-elected. Heck, he'll even vote for a national reciprocity bill just to "stay in the good graces" of folks like us.

    He needs to go along with any of the others who voted for this reckless spending orgy the folks in Washington are enjoying. We need leaders who assess a situation, get some feedback from the top experts in that field, form a plan and make it happen. Not more spineless wonders who see a situation, panic, throw money at it and hope it goes away.

    Of course, who can blame them. Throwing money at the situation got most of their incompetent behinds elected in the first place.
     

    Boilers

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    Bayh was on FOX yesterday afternoon and said much of the same thing, almost verbatim. He's putting his conservative spin face on for the election, IMO. I have a deep dislike of the Senator.

    I can't get past not liking him for the way he looks. He just looks and conducts himself as SMUG. I keep wanting to smack him.
     

    SnowCountry

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    spend your way out of Debt?

    I e-mailed him back and told him that I thought that his e-mail was a bunch of convoluted nonsence. He can not talk about the government spending us out of debt. There is NO SUCH THING.
    I asked him what he would think of a financial advisor who would tell us that since we are in debt up to our eyeballs, we need to get out of debt by maxing out 20 more credit cards? That is exactly what he and Obama are telling us will work to help us get out of debt. Utter nonsence. Typical.
     

    Glockster

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    This is the professional politician's survival instincts kicking in. Remember EB has never worked a day in his life. His father was one of the most liberal senators in the United States and he grew up influenced by that every single day. He was taught as a young man to never let his guard down. I first met Evan when he was 18 years old at I.U. He was "Mr. Plastic" even then. Very superficial and insincere. Always on guard not to offend anyone by letting a real opinion come forth. He is NOT principled. He has his finger in the air just like Clinton always did. He knows that Hoosiers, even Indiana Democrats, are much more conservative than the D.C. crowd. This is simple pandering. Just like his vote for the Thune Amendment, which was cleverly engineered by the majority leadership to allow certain members to cover themselves by voting yes, but with no real chance to escape the Senate with 60 votes. Do not be fooled. Examine the voting record, not the speaking record. Evan Bayh is the real McCoy when it comes to liberalism. Notice how he's substituted "progressive" for "liberal". If you study the origins of Progressivism going back to Woodrow Wilson, it is much scarier than liberalism.
     
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