Decisive Action & Dangers of Letting An Attacker Withdraw Armed

[techres]

We talk about when we can fire and when we cannot. Faced with an armed violent attacker, the moment we pause may be the moment an attacker withdraws only to continue the fight from a distance.

This is an example. The attacker enters the store and the clerk has him at gun point before the attacker has the gun above a low hold. The clerk does not fire and allows him to withdraw. The attacker only withdraws in order to continue the fight on his terms:

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[Vigilant]

If you draw, it's time to get busy! Front sight, press...repeat as necessary!

 

[Bigum1969]

The clerk was lucky that he didn't pay with his life for the second chance he gave to the bad guy.

And, what planet is that customer from? She just kept on walking through the gunfire. I would've crapped my pants and ran, or maybe duck, or maybe crawl... but something!

 

[esrice]

And, what planet is that customer from?

The planet where they hand out oversized bright green coats.

 

[Jack Ryan]

If you draw, it's time to get busy! Front sight, press...repeat as necessary!

I agree. If some one finds out I have a gun in that situation, I've already decided they are a significant threat and I'm ready to shoot to stop the threat. They better get real complacent and unarmed faster than I can get my gun out and shoot them if they don't want shot because I've already evaluated the situation if I start to draw.

 

[quiggly]

So the question is, do you pull the trigger? Bad guy realizes you have the drop on him and starts to back away.

Then what if the clerk would have put two in him?

Not sure how I would react to this. What would you do?

 

[bigcraig]

Bad guy had gun OUT and at low ready, the clerk had his gun out and on target.

If the bad guy didn't obey my command to drop his weapon, I would have shot him.

 

[10ring]

The planet where they hand out oversized bright green coats.

Wow that was crazy.

 

[10ring]

Bad guy had gun OUT and at low ready, the clerk had his gun out and on target.

If the bad guy didn't obey my command to drop his weapon, I would have shot him.

+1

 

[Hoosier8]

I got a kick out of the announcer saying that the clerk isn't expected to get charged. In Milwaukee it is illegal to carry a knife, much less a firearm.

 

[NateIU10]

Bad guy had gun OUT and at low ready, the clerk had his gun out and on target.

If the bad guy didn't obey my command to drop his weapon, I would have shot him.

He still has a gun, he is still a threat to me and I would be in fear for my life.

 

[dburkhead]

Bad guy had gun OUT and at low ready, the clerk had his gun out and on target.

If the bad guy didn't obey my command to drop his weapon, I would have shot him.

Well, my plan is to shoot in that circumstance. Whether I actually would? That, we will only learn if and when I'm ever in that circumstance. (And, that being the case, let's hope I never do find out.)

 

[Panama]

I have been taught, and I have taught my wife, You only pull a gun when you are going to fire it!

You never ever pull it out unless you are going to use it! Period!

If you are in fear for your life, you neutralize that threat!
Otherwise leave it in the holster.

 

[agentl074]

Bad guy had gun OUT and at low ready, the clerk had his gun out and on target.

If the bad guy didn't obey my command to drop his weapon, I would have shot him.

Yup

 

[bigcraig]

I have been taught, and I have taught my wife, You only pull a gun when you are going to fire it!

You never ever pull it out unless you are going to use it! Period!

If you are in fear for your life, you neutralize that threat!
Otherwise leave it in the holster.

I understand this line of thinking, to a point.

I can think of a few scenerios that I might draw my gun and not need to fire it.

 

[quicksdraw]

I have been taught, and I have taught my wife, You only pull a gun when you are going to fire it!

You never ever pull it out unless you are going to use it! Period!

If you are in fear for your life, you neutralize that threat!
Otherwise leave it in the holster.

That is exactly the same thing my father drilled into me from the day he started teaching me to shoot. Anyone that draws their weapon hoping that just the sight of a gun will awe and cower a BG is a fool.

 

[bwframe]

I understand this line of thinking, to a point.

I can think of a few scenerios that I might draw my gun and not need to fire it.

Under the right circumstances, if my leveled barrel and loud commands can keep me from taking a life, I will.

Call me a fool, I guess.

 

[dburkhead]

That is exactly the same thing my father drilled into me from the day he started teaching me to shoot. Anyone that draws their weapon hoping that just the sight of a gun will awe and cower a BG is a fool.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your father. Hoping that drawing the gun will deter the BG without anyone being killed is human. Counting on it is foolish.

Remember that per most of the studies of armed self defense, they are ended without a shot being fired.

 

[jedi]

WOW..
That customer in the green coat is completely unaware of what happened.

I guess I'm paranoid but I'm constanlty looking at everyone and their hands when I'm in a store and I tend to shop "along the walls" of the store so that my back is aganst the wall so I only have to worry about what is in front of me. Makes for an interested time at the store especially to get things. =)

 

[quicksdraw]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your father. Hoping that drawing the gun will deter the BG without anyone being killed is human. Counting on it is foolish.

Remember that per most of the studies of armed self defense, they are ended without a shot being fired.

If you are in a situation where you need to draw your weapon, but do so in the hope you don't have to use it, you are fooling yourself. If the situation is bad enough for you to draw, you had best be prepared to shoot.