Are these things put on with an impact wrench???

[TheGrumpyGuy]

So I bought a TORO upgrade slide for my G3c, and a Vortex Venom red dot. Attempting to install the red dot this morning and 1 of the 2 screws on the optics cover plate must've been installed at the auto dealership with an impact wrench, because I just can't get it to budge.

Any suggestions how to get this screw to break loose?

TIA

 

[Gaffer]

It may be Loctited in. Try a bit of heat from a heat gun (don't go crazy with it), or place a tip of soldering gun on the screw, then try again.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

It may be Loctited in. Try a bit of heat from a heat gun (don't go crazy with it), or place a tip of soldering gun on the screw, then try again.

Thanks, I'll give that a shot! (pun intended)

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Also insert the screwdriver in the screw, push down, turn hard counterclockwise and tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer, creating an impact driver of sorts. Be careful to apply enough downward pressure that it won't rip the corners off inside the head of the fastener.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

Also insert the screwdriver in the screw, push down, turn hard counterclockwise and tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer, creating an impact driver of sorts. Be careful to apply enough downward pressure that it won't rip the corners off inside the head of the fastener.

Fortunately it's an allen head screw - had to use the barrel to tap the wrench into the hole due to its tightness. Guess for this 3-handed application I'll get to try out my new gun vise! Woohoo!

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Allens are superior but I can show you how to strip ANY fastener

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

I think I wrote that book...

 

[radar8756]

Allens are superior but I can show you how to strip ANY fastener

Hold my Beer and Watch THIS

 

[Mgderf]

Allens are superior but I can show you how to strip ANY fastener

I can show you how to snap a t-handled Allen wrench...

 

[marvin02]

The heat will probably do the trick.

Clean all threads thoroughly and use Loctite 222 to reassemble.

LOCTITE® 222

Threadlocking Adhesive - low strength. Easy disassembly. Suitable for all metal threaded assemblies.

www.henkel-adhesives.com

 

[DadSmith]

It may be Loctited in. Try a bit of heat from a heat gun (don't go crazy with it), or place a tip of soldering gun on the screw, then try again.

This works. Just remember it has to get hot to the touch to get loctite to loosen up. Heat gun works best and is a great thing to have around for other jobs like putting on diy rubber grip tape. There are more uses, but at this moment I can't think of the others I've used it for in firearms related work.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

So far 3 minutes with the soldering iron hasn't done a thing, so I'll double that time and break out my oven mitt

 

[Gaffer]

I once had a screw on a plate that I couldn't remove even with heat. The other screw was very tight but I did get it out. The remaining screw wouldn't budge. I ended up stripping the head out, even with a very quality tool.

I went ahead and drilled the head off of the screw. Then I could remove the plate. There was a bit of the screw still sticking out of the hole about the thickness of the plate. The weird thing was that I could actually now turn the screw by hand and removed it. There was no locktight on this screw, I guess it was just overtightened.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

I once had a screw on a plate that I couldn't remove even with heat. The other screw was very tight but I did get it out. The remaining screw wouldn't budge. I ended up stripping the head out, even with a very quality tool.

I went ahead and drilled the head off of the screw. Then I could remove the plate. There was a bit of the screw still sticking out of the hole about the thickness of the plate. The weird thing was that I could actually now turn the screw by hand and removed it. There was no locktight on this screw, I guess it was just overtightened.

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This is a brand new slide (optics cover plate) screw that refuses to budge, so I may just send it back under factory warranty and let them deal with it. I'll admit I'm trying this using the tiny factory allen wrench provided with the kit, and maybe a t-handle wrench will give the extra leverage needed to break it loose after heating - if not, call will be made to manufacturer Monday morning.

 

[indyblue]

I recently had to do this on my CZ PCR.

Removed the slide, use the heat gun until I could barely stand to touch it. The sight set screw came right out after that.

 

[Gaffer]

This is a brand new slide (optics cover plate) screw that refuses to budge, so I may just send it back under factory warranty and let them deal with it. I'll admit I'm trying this using the tiny factory allen wrench provided with the kit, and maybe a t-handle wrench will give the extra leverage needed to break it loose after heating - if not, call will be made to manufacturer Monday morning.

That is probably the best idea. There is always the chance that you could mess something permanently up.

I wish I had your patience; I could have saved myself some lots of grief over the years :>).

Good luck!

Ron

 

[Cameramonkey]

This is a brand new slide (optics cover plate) screw that refuses to budge, so I may just send it back under factory warranty and let them deal with it. I'll admit I'm trying this using the tiny factory allen wrench provided with the kit, and maybe a t-handle wrench will give the extra leverage needed to break it loose after heating - if not, call will be made to manufacturer Monday morning.

THIS. Let them screw it up.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

I wish I had your patience;

(He don't know me vewy well, do he?)

 

[sheepdog697]

I didn’t feel like reading every response. What you need is heat, and Constant pressure. I’d you want to get something loose I’ll grab an Allen set, turn (counterclockwise) until there is a decent amount of tension. Then I apply heat. I hold the tension for awhile and with continued heat it breaks free.

 

[bwframe]

Blaster and heat?