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  • coltaceguy

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    Picture added :)
    Ok so you can not get them or any other number of rifles/pistols as the ATF changed the rules Feb 10th 2009.
    Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:
    List of import bans
    (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, the appropriate ATF officer shall deny applications to import into the United States the following firearms and ammunition:
    (1) Any firearm located or manufactured in Georgia, Kazakstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russian Federation, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, or Uzbekistan, and any firearm previously manufactured in the Soviet Union, that is not one of the models listed below:
    (i) Pistols/Revolvers:
    (A) German Model P08 Pistol.
    (B) IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
    (C) IZH 35M, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
    (D) Mauser Model 1896 Pistol.
    (E) MC–57–1 Pistol.
    (F) MC–1–5 Pistol.
    (G) Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol.
    (H) Soviet Nagant Revolver.
    (I) TOZ 35, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
    (ii) Rifles:
    (A) BARS–4 Bolt Action Carbine.
    (B) Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber.
    (C) British Enfield Rifle.
    (D) CM2, .22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2, 22 caliber).
    (E) German Model 98K Rifle.
    (F) German Model G41 Rifle.
    (G) German Model G43 Rifle.
    (H) IZH–94.
    (I) LOS–7 Bolt Action Rifle.
    (J) MC–7–07.
    (K) MC–18–3.
    (L) MC–19–07.
    (M) MC–105–01.
    (N) MC–112–02.
    (O) MC–113–02.
    (P) MC–115–1.
    (Q) MC–125/127.
    (R) MC–126.
    (S) MC–128.
    (T) Saiga Rifle.
    (U) Soviet Model 38 Carbine.
    (V) Soviet Model 44 Carbine.
    (W) Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle.
    (X) TOZ 18, .22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle.
    (Y) TOZ 55.
    (Z) TOZ 78.
    (AA) Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber.
    (BB) VEPR Rifle.
    (CC) Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle;
    This list was updated Feb 10.
    grrrrrrr
    Read CAREFULLY...no more Russian rifles including the loved Moisn (if it was made in Russia).


    Uhmm that doesn't say a VEPR is banned from import. I think you should read what you post more careful before telling anyone else to :laugh:
     

    smokingman

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    VEPR?

    LOL I said a factory russian, not a neutered rifle.


    Epic fail.

    :draw:
    How is an ak built on an RPK Reicever(50% heavier and tough as hell),Rpk fully adjustable sight,comes in 4 cal up to 308,and is regarded as the most accurate ak in the world.
    15cikba.jpg

    Short of a bayonet lug how is this a neutered rifle?
     

    smokingman

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    Uhmm that doesn't say a VEPR is banned from import. I think you should read what you post more careful before telling anyone else to :laugh:
    Yes it does,as are all russian weapons and ammo at this point. Here is another article...in plain English.
    U.S. sanctions against Russian arms exporter meet objection_English_Xinhua
    and another article.
    Russian Arms Exporter Sanctioned Over Iran - washingtonpost.com
    Hope that helps.
    I also called Home the importer for these.They have XCR's but no longer can import VEPR's and have none in stock anymore.He said "best of luck finding one...you may try gunbroker."
     
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    Are AK's more accurate than an SKS? It has always been my understanding that SKS's were designed for maximum blood shed at 300yards with lots of durability. Accuracy was not a major concern. Assuming this is true, Are AK's more accurate or is it kind of the same thing? Thanks.
     

    Charles Church

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    With my experiance, it's about the same at around 150 yards or so. I own a Chinese SKS, and a Romanian AK-47 WASR-10, and, again, like I said, with what I have shot, it's about the same. I have actually got better grouping at 200+ yards with my AK then I have with my SKS!
     

    STEEL CORE

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    Dunno where you lkive, but I have to drive 1 Hour from Fishers to New Castle to the Wilbur Wright State Range, "free range use" but has a "DNR Nazi" standing by to harass you, small 200 mtr range for my paper plate shooting AK.
    Dawn to Dusk Wed-Sun , closed unless a STATE holiday on Mon-Tues.:ar15:
     

    Bill of Rights

    Cogito, ergo porto.
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    Picture added :)
    Ok so you can not get them or any other number of rifles/pistols as the ATF changed the rules Feb 10th 2009.
    Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:
    List of import bans
    (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, the appropriate ATF officer shall deny applications to import into the United States the following firearms and ammunition:
    (1) Any firearm located or manufactured in Georgia, Kazakstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russian Federation, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, or Uzbekistan, and any firearm previously manufactured in the Soviet Union, that is not one of the models listed below:
    (i) Pistols/Revolvers:
    (A) German Model P08 Pistol.
    (B) IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
    (C) IZH 35M, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
    (D) Mauser Model 1896 Pistol.
    (E) MC–57–1 Pistol.
    (F) MC–1–5 Pistol.
    (G) Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol.
    (H) Soviet Nagant Revolver.
    (I) TOZ 35, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
    (ii) Rifles:
    (A) BARS–4 Bolt Action Carbine.
    (B) Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber.
    (C) British Enfield Rifle.
    (D) CM2, .22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2, 22 caliber).
    (E) German Model 98K Rifle.
    (F) German Model G41 Rifle.
    (G) German Model G43 Rifle.
    (H) IZH–94.
    (I) LOS–7 Bolt Action Rifle.
    (J) MC–7–07.
    (K) MC–18–3.
    (L) MC–19–07.
    (M) MC–105–01.
    (N) MC–112–02.
    (O) MC–113–02.
    (P) MC–115–1.
    (Q) MC–125/127.
    (R) MC–126.
    (S) MC–128.
    (T) Saiga Rifle.
    (U) Soviet Model 38 Carbine.
    (V) Soviet Model 44 Carbine.
    (W) Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle.
    (X) TOZ 18, .22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle.
    (Y) TOZ 55.
    (Z) TOZ 78.
    (AA) Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber.
    (BB) VEPR Rifle.
    (CC) Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle;
    This list was updated Feb 10.
    grrrrrrr
    Read CAREFULLY...no more Russian rifles including the loved Moisn (if it was made in Russia).

    The Mosins are still OK-see highlighted text. It appears that AKs and SKSs are not, however, unless they go by some name I don't know.

    Blessings,
    Bill
     
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