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    [FONT=Palatino,][SIZE=+2]Soldier doubts eligibility,
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    [FONT=Palatino,][SIZE=+1]'As an officer, my sworn oath to support
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    [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][SIZE=-1]Posted: February 23, 2009
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    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]By Bob Unruh
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    Soldier Scott Easterling
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,](Story continues below)[/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility," Easterling wrote. "In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Taitz told WND she had advised Easterling to obtain legal counsel before making any statements regarding the commander-in-chief, but he insisted on moving forward. His contention is that as an active member of the U.S. military, he is required to follow orders from a sitting president, and he needs – on pain of court-martial – to know that Obama is eligible. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 250,000 others and sign up now! [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Taitz said other legal cases questioning Obama's eligibility filed by members of the military mostly have included retired officers, and courts several times have ruled they don't have standing to issue their challenge. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Easterling, however, is subject to enemy fire and certainly would have a reason to need to know the legitimacy of his orders, she argued. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor," his statement said. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Easterling said he joined the Army at age 40 after working in Iraq as a contractor. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"I chose to work … to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised its maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of basic training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent basic officer leadership courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly thereafter deployed to Balad, Iraq," he wrote. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"I implore all service-members and citizens to contact their senators and representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced," he wrote. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Taitz said Easterling is among the plaintiffs she is assembling for a new legal action over Obama's eligibility. Others include a list of state lawmakers who also would be required in their official position to follow orders of the president. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"My conviction is such that I am compelled to join Dr. Orly Taitz's lawsuit, as a plaintiff, against Mr. Obama. As a citizen, it pains me to do this, but as an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this action," he said. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Easterling was "saluted" in a forum on Taitz' website. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Lt. Easterling, As a retired US Army SFC, I salute you sir as a true American patriot and hero! Thank you for your unselfish service to our country. It is rare to find someone today with such moral courage to do the right thing regardless of repercussions," said one contributor. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Said another, "For your voluntary service to our country, we owe you a debt we can never pay." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]As WND reported yesterday, U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said during a meeting with constituents in Cullman County he has never seen proof the new president was born in Hawaii. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]"Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate," Shelby said. "You have to be born in America to be president." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Shelby's office later stated the senator is confident of Obama's vetting process, although it did not elaborate. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President." [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born. [/FONT][/FONT]
    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]Here is a partial listing and status update for some of the cases over Obama's eligibility: [/FONT][/FONT]

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      [*]New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.
      [*]Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama's original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg's latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was denied.
      [*]Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.
      [*]Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.
      [*]Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.
      [*]Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.
      [*]Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.
      [*]In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.
      [*]In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.
      [*]In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.
      [*]California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama's eligibility include: [/FONT][/FONT]

    • [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]
      [*]In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.
      [*]In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.
      [*]In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.
      [*]In Washington, L. Charles vs. Obama.
      [*]In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][FONT=Palatino,]WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi had gone to both Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.[/FONT][/FONT]
     

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    His career is probably over now. He has a pair for making a stand. I wish him the best. I signed the world net daily petition wanting proof of BO's citizenship.
     

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    I agree with his intentions, but not his actions in this situation. Barack Obama is the President, and the Commander in Chief. Even if he got there through fraud, which I believe is very possible. Now it is up to Congress. Army officers answer to civilians, not the other way around. He may not like the way this has come about, but he's sworn to uphold the Constitution, and the Constitution is clear on this. Obama is his Commander in Chief.

    We have to support our process, regardless of what it produces, unless it's produce reaches the point where violent overthrow is the only solution. I think we agree we're not there yet. The process requires Congress to impeach Obama if they think they have reason. You and I know they won't, but that doesn't change anything. Elections have consequences. Idiotically believing the propaganda system we call the media has consequences.

    It's the process which is sacred, not the outcome.
     

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    I just get hate that I have to provide a copy of my birth certificate to get the job I have, but the new president is above that. I know it has been said before, but he "works" the people. If he has it show it and if not hit the road and we will move on. Just seems to me he has a issue and wants the courts to cover his six on this one.
     

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    I agree with his intentions, but not his actions in this situation. Barack Obama is the President, and the Commander in Chief. Even if he got there through fraud, which I believe is very possible. Now it is up to Congress. Army officers answer to civilians, not the other way around. He may not like the way this has come about, but he's sworn to uphold the Constitution, and the Constitution is clear on this. Obama is his Commander in Chief.
    Don't forget there is a little something in the Constitution that also applies to BHO needed certain qualifications. So he is defending the Constitution.

    No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
     

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    I agree with his intentions, but not his actions in this situation. Barack Obama is the President, and the Commander in Chief. Even if he got there through fraud, which I believe is very possible. Now it is up to Congress. Army officers answer to civilians, not the other way around. He may not like the way this has come about, but he's sworn to uphold the Constitution, and the Constitution is clear on this. Obama is his Commander in Chief.

    We have to support our process, regardless of what it produces, unless it's produce reaches the point where violent overthrow is the only solution. I think we agree we're not there yet. The process requires Congress to impeach Obama if they think they have reason. You and I know they won't, but that doesn't change anything. Elections have consequences. Idiotically believing the propaganda system we call the media has consequences.

    It's the process which is sacred, not the outcome.

    I have to disagree. Obama was inaugurated, yes, but if he got there under false pretenses, he is no more the President than someone who forges a degree and a license to practice medicine is a doctor. If our military are being asked to jeopardize their lives, I don't think it's asking too much that they be assured that the guy giving them the orders is Constitutionally authorized to do so.

    If the Congress will not fulfill their oaths, yes, they should be replaced, but as SavageEagle noted, waiting two to four years for that to happen is an unacceptable time frame, and while, if determined ineligible, his executive orders, any laws he has signed, and in fact, all acts he has performed will be nullified, those people who have died as a result of his orders cannot be brought back by that nullification. I think they have a right to know, partly because they are our military, risking their lives, and partly because they are American citizens.

    This should have all been hashed out and proven prior to his being nominated in the primaries. It certainly should have been resolved before the DNC convention. If neither of those, then by the date of the election, and the "last ditch" should have happened before the Electoral College cast their votes. Just because these four opportunities were all bypassed (and I must wonder who got paid off and with how much to do so) does not mean that the results should just be passively accepted. If the bastard has violated the Constitution, he should be removed from office and he and anyone who helped him get there or stay there who had knowledge of the question and didn't demand verifiable answers should be charged at the very least with obstruction of justice.

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    Think about what you're saying. Let's be better than the left.

    There were people who truly believed that George Bush was not the legitimate president in 2000. They believed the Supreme Court hijacked the election. I disagree with them, but some believed it. What if an Army officer had decided that Bush wasn't his CIC? There was an Army captain who refused to deploy to Iraq because he believed Iraq was an illegal war. He used the argument that he had a responsibility to disobey an illegal order.

    The point is that individuals don't get to decide these things. The Constitution lays this out. Only Congress may remove a President. You can't invoke the Constitution and say it hasn't been followed without proof. The only proof that can be required is in a Senate trial after the House has impeached. Until that happens, individual soldiers don't get to make their own decisions.

    Those of you who are so confident that if Obama were proven to not be natural born that would nullify his presidency, you have no basis for such confidence. You have no idea what would happen, because there's nothing in the Constitution that addresses a remedy for such a situation. This means that the Supreme Court would be left to interpret that issue, if and when someone challenged that in court. All of us would be speculating as to what happens, my suspicion is that to avoid a nightmare, the Supreme Court would declare that Obama had been the President up until his impeachment, but again, that's only my guess.

    We can't throw out the process just because we think we're right on a particular issue. That's what the left does.
     

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    I agree with his intentions, but not his actions in this situation. Barack Obama is the President, and the Commander in Chief. Even if he got there through fraud, which I believe is very possible. Now it is up to Congress. Army officers answer to civilians, not the other way around. He may not like the way this has come about, but he's sworn to uphold the Constitution, and the Constitution is clear on this. Obama is his Commander in Chief.

    We have to support our process, regardless of what it produces, unless it's produce reaches the point where violent overthrow is the only solution. I think we agree we're not there yet. The process requires Congress to impeach Obama if they think they have reason. You and I know they won't, but that doesn't change anything. Elections have consequences. Idiotically believing the propaganda system we call the media has consequences.

    It's the process which is sacred, not the outcome.

    But the process has very likely been circumvented by Obama and his crowd, meaning that he is not legally the President. The Constitution is indeed crystal clear, and it's entirely possible that Obama and his disciples have illegally seized power. That soldier has a duty do defend the Constitution, and has made the decision that his duty requires him to challenge the person who claims to be President. I think he is correct to do so. He's screwed, but he's right.

    You are correct, Congress won't impeach Obama when it's proven he's not Constitutionally qualified to be President. Their failure to enforce the Constitution, though, does NOT make that man legal President if he is not a natural born citizen. Which means our nation will have no legal government, and is illegitimate.

    Elections do indeed have consequences. So does overthrowing our electoral system.

    In the meantime, if that soldier honestly feels that the way he says he does, he has only one legal and moral path, which he has chosen to walk.
     

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    Think about what you're saying. Let's be better than the left.

    There were people who truly believed that George Bush was not the legitimate president in 2000. They believed the Supreme Court hijacked the election. I disagree with them, but some believed it. What if an Army officer had decided that Bush wasn't his CIC? There was an Army captain who refused to deploy to Iraq because he believed Iraq was an illegal war. He used the argument that he had a responsibility to disobey an illegal order.

    The point is that individuals don't get to decide these things. The Constitution lays this out. Only Congress may remove a President. You can't invoke the Constitution and say it hasn't been followed without proof. The only proof that can be required is in a Senate trial after the House has impeached. Until that happens, individual soldiers don't get to make their own decisions.

    Those of you who are so confident that if Obama were proven to not be natural born that would nullify his presidency, you have no basis for such confidence. You have no idea what would happen, because there's nothing in the Constitution that addresses a remedy for such a situation. This means that the Supreme Court would be left to interpret that issue, if and when someone challenged that in court. All of us would be speculating as to what happens, my suspicion is that to avoid a nightmare, the Supreme Court would declare that Obama had been the President up until his impeachment, but again, that's only my guess.

    We can't throw out the process just because we think we're right on a particular issue. That's what the left does.

    Actually, this soldier is doing exactly the correct thing to get this heard. In the event that a soldier had decided that Bush was not his CIC, that soldier would have been court martialed. This means that he (or she, but I'll use "he" for convenience) would stand before a court and claim that SCOTUS had no authority to make that decision. The court martial would then have responded, "stare decisis" and issued him a less-than-honorable discharge.

    This is a different situation: No Court has heard evidence on this matter. They have claimed that the plaintiff had no standing to sue (which still baffles me) or in the case of SCOTUS, have refused to grant cert. There is no ruling to stand, and the soldier does not need standing to sue, he is the one standing as defendant, not for claiming Obama is not President, but for saying he will not follow the orders of someone who sits in the office and occupies the chair of the President until such person proves that he is Constitutionally qualified for the office. By the same reasoning, if I entered a military base with forged credentials and colonels' eagles and started giving orders, the soldiers there would be fully within their rights to confirm that I was or was not who I said I was. Once my ID was confirmed as a civilian, I would be quickly taken into custody to be tried. Conversely, if someone who was currently serving as a colonel in our military was to do what I just described and had his ID confirmed as valid, those soldiers would then be bound to follow his orders, and likely would do so with the same dedication to their duty as they followed the orders of their own chain of command. The primary difference here is that the President is at the top of their chain of command, and he is refusing to prove his eligibility for office.

    I have little doubt that the soldier in this case would follow orders given once the validity of those orders was confirmed. His bringing this to a court martial may be exactly what is needed to get the facts heard.

    Blessings,
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    You're missing the point. That's like saying that I beleive the George Bush is an alien from another planet and he's an illegitimate president until he proves different. Just because someone believes that Obama wasn't born here doesn't put any burden on Obama to prove it any differently than he has. You can't just decide that a President needs to prove something you think he needs to prove. There is a process that is followed.

    I've heard two stories on this, I don't know which is true. One is that there is no process to check the credentials of a president. The other I heard is that credentials are checked, and Obama's birth certificate copy was accepted. I don't know which is true, but Obama has no obligation to do anything the law does not specifically require, just because there's suspicion about his origins. Think about it.
     

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    By the same reasoning, if I entered a military base with forged credentials and colonels' eagles and started giving orders, the soldiers there would be fully within their rights to confirm that I was or was not who I said I was. Once my ID was confirmed as a civilian, I would be quickly taken into custody to be tried. Bill

    You're using a false analogy. I was in the Army. If my chain of command introduced a man to me as a Colonel, and he was wearing the rank on his collar, but my buddy whispered in my ear that the guy wasn't really a Colonel, do you really think I could get away with not obeying his orders until I was satisified? So I walk up to the Colonel and ask for his ID, and he tells me to get bent, you think I don't have to lawfully follow his orders?

    As far as we know, Obama was born here. There is speculation, unproven, that he was not. No one really knows what proof if any is required for a President. The man was elected. You and that officer might have an argument, if for instance, you had some kind of evidence that he was an imposter. All you have is speculation on your side. On his side, he has an official copy from Hawaii (BTW, I only have an official copy of mine) he was elected, and the only body that can remove him accepts him. He was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He may have been born out of the country, but right now, the burden of proof is on the speculators.
     

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    Why would he not just produce the information to prove he was and stop all the questions?

    Why keep hiding it?

    I agree one thousand percent. That's what makes me so suspicious. It seems like it would be such an easy thing to do, and put it all to rest. That's why I think it's likely there's something to this.
     

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    You're using a false analogy. I was in the Army. If my chain of command introduced a man to me as a Colonel, and he was wearing the rank on his collar, but my buddy whispered in my ear that the guy wasn't really a Colonel, do you really think I could get away with not obeying his orders until I was satisified? So I walk up to the Colonel and ask for his ID, and he tells me to get bent, you think I don't have to lawfully follow his orders?

    As far as we know, Obama was born here. There is speculation, unproven, that he was not. No one really knows what proof if any is required for a President. The man was elected. You and that officer might have an argument, if for instance, you had some kind of evidence that he was an imposter. All you have is speculation on your side. On his side, he has an official copy from Hawaii (BTW, I only have an official copy of mine) he was elected, and the only body that can remove him accepts him. He was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He may have been born out of the country, but right now, the burden of proof is on the speculators.

    And if your chain of command was likewise mistaken/misled (aka lied to) and people died because you followed orders, that would get you no farther than it did the guys at Nuremberg, to say nothing of the fact that your gut told you one thing and your chain told you different, and you listened to the wrong one.

    There IS evidence that he was born elsewhere, from members of his own family, now silenced by the Kenyan gov't. There is spoken and recorded evidence from the Kenyan ambassador, admittedly circumstantial/hearsay.
    There is evidence that the "birth certification" publicized was a forgery.

    The burden of proof may be on his speculators, but the only way for them (us) to bring it out is with a court order, and for that to happen, a court has to hear it and rule on it, and that means someone has to be charged with something. This soldier has put his own neck on the chopping block to make that happen, to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". I applaud his bravery. :patriot:

    Blessings,
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    The point is that individuals don't get to decide these things. The Constitution lays this out. Only Congress may remove a President. You can't invoke the Constitution and say it hasn't been followed without proof.

    It takes an individual to get this heard properly in the first place. As BOR has stated the other lawsuits have been denied due to "Lack of standing". That is bunk because every legal American should have standing to question the eligibility of a President. Congress only has to get involved if and when he is found to be a fraud.
    If a Soldier doesn't have standing than who does?
     
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